impertinence said:
Come off it. Don't call out outhers use of logic when you can't make a reasonable argument yourself. It's clearly stated when I asked you that I consider it as established that power roles have characters and or names, thus it follows that I don't consider the extra abilities such as shield and stimpacks (or jetpack for that matter) to be power roles. You claimed a power role, and going by my assumptions about the game setup I assume you would have a name or character as well. You can pretend that is illogical all you want which seems to be a standard attack/defence you like to bring up but you're wrong. There's nothing illogical about what I have said and if you think so you either don't know what constitutes a logical argument or you're incapable of reading what is in front of you. Anyway, speaking of harmful to town, back and forth about this is not doing town any good. I know that what you said gave me a strong feeling your a zerg power role, and your attempts to spread doubt about that read isn't really moving me off it. |
objectively, my arguments are sound.
Whether it was scum or not, you were the first to directly imply that dark templars were vanilla scum. Regardless of whether or not you choose to believe it, that came off as a slip. Whether or not it was scum-motivated is the only thing up for question.
This is how logic works:
Supporting statements
One player has a role with a name
Two players have roles and only unit names
By logic, some roles have names and some do not.
I don't know if you know logic or not, but there are rules.
Your evidence
At least one player has a role and is named (R AND N)
At least one player has a role and is not named (R AND NotN)
Conclusion: Prof has a role and must have a name
This doesn't follow logically.
Conversely, it does follow that SOME roles are Named and NotNamed (P = NotR and (R and (N and NotN)))
Some players have roles, some do not. Of those players with roles some have Names and some do not.
That is called logic. Your statement does not support that, as you have omitted evidence for no real reason whatsoever.
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" thus it follows that I don't consider the extra abilities such as shield and stimpacks (or jetpack for that matter) to be power roles."
that statement is not a LOGICAL CONCLUSION from the evidence.
Evidence:
Some players have roles and Names
Some players have roles and NotNames
A power role is a player who has a role
Imp casts suspicion on a player that claims not to have a name.
Conclusion:
Imp doesn't consider the roles without names to be power roles.
NOT LOGICAL.
There is no deductive reason why you should consider some roles to not have power roles based on the statements. Unless there are logical statements missing, which you haven't provided.
You don't consider Shield (bulletproof?) Stim (doublevote? night kill?) and Jetpack (commuter) to be power roles???
I see that you're trying to explain yourself, but every explanation warrants even moer questions. Why would you not assume those are power roles? This is directly related to your accusation of me. You're supporting your suspicion by simply oblivating other evidence?? Can't you read this and think to yourself "yeah, that sounds ridiculous"? Because it clearly is!
Lastly, you can consider anything about me you want. You think that I'm trying to dissuade you but you couldn't be anymore wrong. I think you've made some glaring errors. Whether or not you are scum or simply hard-headed and WRONG is the question I have to answer for myself. Most of your other input this game has been very strong, so it bothers me that you'd be making these errors.
