Scotland to leave the UK?

[The Fury]

trashleg said:

Hiya :D

Only everyone who was resident in Scotland prior to September 2nd and registered is eligible to vote. I live in England at the moment, I believe it was Cameron's plea to Salmond that Scots who live outside of Scotland don't get a vote. It was part of the conditions of the referendum. He didn't want us "swaying" the vote. lulz.

I understand you aren't being represented, but let me clarify. Scotland was independent prior to the union, has/had its own distinct identity and resources. If they have this chance to change the waythey governed, should they not be bold enough to take it? It's about so much more than individuals not getting the party they voted for, it's a chronic misalignment of political ideologies. 

As Alex Salmond put it, we have more pandas in Scotland than we do Tory MPs

The devolved parliament you're talking about has its own powers...but only for so much. The budget that Scotland is handed every year is still determined by Westminster. 

I think this is a fantastically exciting opportunity. I hate Westminster politics. I don't hate being British, I don't hate England. If this referendum was never happening, I'd be behind the movement for political restructuring with more devolved powers for all regions.

Whether Scottish independence is achieved or not, I'd LOVE to see Westminster replaced by a more geographically and ideologically central summit system, where delegates from each constituency (for lack of a better term) meet to discuss issues relating to their electorate, without the need for party playfround bullying or rivalry. Rivalry has no place in representation, and it is entirely selfish of the politicians to feed their egos using their electorate. 
Anyway. Yep. Imagine if delegates from all over the UK met up regularly to discuss issues and solve problems, assigning budgets as required and being much more inclusive, much more locally involved. 

Sounds good, doesn't it? If Scotland can start the rest of the UK thinking "we should have more of a say over ourselves", then let's do this.

Which baffles me more as the 400 thousand English residents in Scotland get to vote, infact if they want the Polish residents can, can't they? Which would be weird considering, they could vote for independence and then not be allowed to work/live there anymore. A Scottish born/immediate offspring of Scottish born would have been best. Although hard to do.

A lot has changed in 300 years. The reasons for the union may no longer apply but there have been good recent strides to allow Scotland, Wales and NI more power to govern themselves away from Westminster, abilities to set some of their own policies. Just because one government (which ends in May next year) isn't to the countries liking is no reason to do a (somewhat) permanent solution to a temporary problem.

 

That idea sounds like the EU, which I am for (mainly due to trade) but things are unlikely to change on that front, however giving more power to each region is the way to do it.

It sad that I've never really seen myself as English, but British yet have no control/no say in the outcome of something that affects my country.