Scotland to leave the UK?

[Metrium]

MoHasanie said:

Metrium said:

The aging population is no longer true since a few years now, since the last 5years or so our population has been growing. And I don't see how a population of only 8million is so bad since alot of country is even lower.

If these english speakers feel so intimidated by a strong french culture and refuse to assimilate themselves to the point where theyd rather leave, so be it. Montréal is already filled with english speakers that refuse to speak or learn french despite the french majority. They see themselves above ''the indigenous'' to learn our language, forcing the majority around them to speak their language. I would'nt mind seeing these ppl go. And these are not at all every english speakers that are this way, a minority of them, but these are the majority that would leave. Also, lots of them talk about it, it's easy to talk about threatening of leaving, but if québec would really become independant and it would be time to turn these threats into actions, most of them would'nt bother.

The federal government does'nt ''give'' us money. We the people of Québec pay federal taxs, that's what those taxs are for. Federal taxs that we would stop paying if we were independant. Probably we would'nt pay less taxs since we would probably still pay the same amount but this time to the province. The difference is that instead of paying that federal tax that partly goes back to us, but a big part also goes to oil sands, submarines and other things that quebecers don't care about, that federal tax would entirely go to us.

I think as we speak, our bigest trade partner are the USA but I'm not sure enough to call it a fact since I could be wrong, we sell them alot of hydro electricity and Québec has so many ressources to trade. We have hydro electricity, tons of minerals in the north, apples, diary farms etc.

The population has been growing mainly due to an increase in immigration from French speaking North African countries. 

If Quebec were to become inependant, French would be the main language. Up till now, there are still people that live in Quebec that don't speak French. Those people would certainly leave. 

Your biggest trade partner is USA now but there's no gurantee that you'll be part of the North American Free Trade bloc. 

 

Here is a paragraph from a report that was released that studied how Quebec benefits from being part of Canada: 

There is a belief among separatists that, in leaving the Canadian federation and repatriating the taxes paid to the 

government federal, Québec find itself with an important surplus of revenues plus would be able to eliminate any 

deficit and ensure funding of all current provincial programs, plus those it would inherit from the Canadian 

government. That thesis goes against all economic logic. Québec contributes 20% of the revenues of the Canadian 

government while a big part of federal spending in the province is done on a per-capita basis, meaning that 

Québec receives 23.5% of the moneys paid out by Ottawa. Moreover, programs like defence, international 

relations, transport and others entail important economies of scale, scope, network and coordination, economies 

that would be lost if Québec decided to go it alone.

You made some good points and I won't contradict you cause doing otherwise would just be me talking out of my ass since I don't have any data. But not everything needs to be a economical issue, sometimes it's a social issue. Even if rough times would be ahead, on the long run socially and culturaly their is alot of benefits that I guess you will never understand. It's a question of national pride and identity that makes these sacrifices worth it.