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starcraft said:
DonFerrari said:
starcraft said:

Lets be clear. There have been intermittent retailer deals, and some bundling - both of which Sony already does.

The poster I responded too wrote "At this rate, I expect a $200 X1 by the end of next year " and yet its my post you take issue with?

I take no issue with your post... And for me a preposterous post regarding 200 by the end of the year don't even deserves a reply because you know what the intention of the poster was.

I replied to your post because I know you aren't trying any funny bussiness. And yes Sony does bundle, but for PS4 I haven't saw any free games bundle, the first bundle to have a discount is Destiny (10 dollars) if I'm not wrong.

And as I said, I agree there isn't a official pricecut, just several promotions, deals, etc... but it's clear that since TF the real price of a X1 was never 400 (assuming 100 for kinect during that time as well), because you always had one or two games for free or even limited time discounts... and all of those are great and MS had to try them to grab more sales. The only discussion that should be had on MS deals (which for people that want the games being offered on each of the individual deals are really good value) is that if they don't make too much to early and make customers be on hold waiting that maybe next month they will offer even a better value deal and end up making more harm than good with the deals.

I don't think anyone is going to question that Microsoft has had to offer greater incentives than Sony has to generate sales.

But there is this pervasive idea on these forums that Microsoft has somehow become desperate, based largely of a sense of price cutting that simply has not materialised (yet). One can make the argument that the price of entry has lowered with the removal of Kinect, but at the end of the day its apples and oranges as the SKU has substantially less features.


The sensation of MS desperation is probably because we follow all their actions and try to spin it to seek of desperation and not just MS trying to find the best way to propel their sales... and since most here are really nitpick about one company or another and like to criticize their every move when MS do a promotion a month (more or less) and have some PR blunders then we all push it to the desperation route.

For me MS Xbox division is a little cornered and need results but MS as a whole could care less, I actually don't even see why the investor complain or would complain so much about they not making hefties of money on Xbox since the company as a whole is quite health and Xbox even being a distraction never impended them from making lot of profit.

But yes we shouldn't try to make all MS moves seem desperate. If sales were reversed we would say Sony is lenient and MS is overkilling, so in the end is just corporations playing their game to push sales.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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