The Fury said:
Don't insult me. I know the Union Flag represents our joined nations and I understand it very well. But it doesn't mean we, as the rest of the UK who are proud of our nation and proud of our heritage, don't want to keep the flag that represents us. To have to be told just because some people in the North don't want us to have a bit of blue in the background so we have to change it is insulting. St Patrick's Cross is still present on our Union flag but the country it represented, Ireland (as a whole), is no longer part of our Union. The Queen is head of state of Canada. Canada does not have the Union Flag on theirs flag anymore, they gave it up. It was their choice. So the Queen being head has little to do with it. If Aus and NZ wanted to change there is no stopping them. By your logic, Aus and NZ would have to change their flag too if Scotland left, right? |
Sorry but your comments are just getting stupid and dumb because you fail to see how Scotland leaving would affect the meaning of the UK flag and therefore would be in for a change due to a change in what it represents. I also see you missed my last line in my comment when referring to Canada.
" If there is a new design, you will most likly also get those nations that have The Union Jack on their flag, they will probably have their changed as well to the new design." ("fag" was a typo where I missed the "L" originally when typing and your quote took it before I made the change)
Implying that there are nations that are under the crown but do not have The Union Jack off their flag. And yes, by my logic, Australia and NZ would need to change their flag because their flag would be representing something that no longer exists unless the meaning of The Union Jack is changed. So in order to keep it as representing what something means, then they will need to change their flag as well to accomidate the new flag that the UK would use if Scotland were to seperate. It doesn't matter if you feel proud and patroitic of The Union Jack as it stands or not, you would be feeling proud and patroitic of something that doesn't exist and more and is dead. So comes back to the Canadain flag, yes it was their choice to remove The union jack off the flag in 1965, prior to that, the Canadian flag did have the Union Jack on it similar to what AUS and NZ are now. AUS and NZ can do this as well and then just go with their own flag with nothing represting the crown if The Union Jack lost it's meaning. If they were to keep the flag that represented the crown, then it would be changed to whatever the new flag is to be.
As for your arguement about the St. patrick's cross because Ireland as a whole is not there, the thing is, part of Ireland still is. It may not be a whole, but there is still a Union with ireland even if it is not a whole.
