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I have been saying 7.5 all along in the other threads. It is by no means a bad game, but it is not a 9 or 10 either. Personally, I think Borderlands 1 and 2 are way better experiences in a somewhat (using this sparingly) comparable type of world. I also think the Crucible is somewhat comparable to Halo MP, but not quite as fun either. What makes Destiny unique is every element of it combined together to form the Destiny world, and it succeeds at that, but its components looked at individually are not stand out amazing, IMO. It's still a good game, and I would find it hard to argue that it "sucks", but the PvP balance and the fact that PVP is boring are not possible for me to overlook.  I don't see how anyone could honestly call this a 9.5-10. That being said, it will have enormous sales numbers and it has stellar co-op implementations. On topic of the thread, I vote Fall 2015.