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sundin13 said:
Mr Khan said:
Good on him. Quinn was important for the appearance of journalistic impropriety, but folks took it and made it into some sort of half-baked Red Pill cause, completely subverting the movement into some kind of faux-MRA misogynist front.

The cries of "censorship" on the other side ignore the fact that it seems to be impossible to have this discussion, anywhere, without it bringing to light some very ugly things in a community, and at the end of the day we're not obligated to tolerate ugly thoughts as liberal-democratic States are.


While the harrassment issues that came up were certainly grotesque and inappropriate, the discussion of extremist-feminism and its hypocritical applications in gaming media are just as important as any other discussions that came up out of this. Gaming journalists need to not only be open about their connections to the people they write about, but also be held accountable for their hypocrisy and biases. When someone calls the attention of everyone to talk about a male developer who denied allegations of rape, then condemns anyone who so much as speaks about Zoe Quinn in a negative light, something is wrong. This isn't exclusive to to video game journalism either, but as a smaller, more niche group, we have a better ability to change, and we have seen steps being made to be more open after this situation, but further steps need to be taken.

The question is one of timing. Were the people condemning Quinn's detractors doing so before or after (some of) Quinn's detractors turned r/videogames into a toxic dump site?



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