Hoodieninja said:
BMaker11 said:
Hoodieninja said:
I'm really sick of hearing this if flipping burgers gets you $15 an hour there will be less productivity. In China garbagemen and Factory workers literally have slave wages and they still work. Their stuck in a rut hoping their kids do better than they did.
Minimum Wage meant more back than, it didn't stop productivity. Having laws enacted where SLAVERY was abolished didn't stop productivity. Having laws enacted to stop companies from Abusing laborers didn't stop productivity. It's like people are defending the super rich when they have indeed taken over the white house, Constantly lobbying and bribing politicians. U.S. is turning more into an Oligarchy and people seem to be okay with that. |
Do you not understand the premise of "what's the point in going to school, developing skills, etc if I can just flip burgers and make the same money"? That's what people mean by "less productivity". It's one thing to have minimum wage and people still work because they need money. It's another thing to have minimum wage so high that there's no incentive to do other jobs. No incentive to become educated. No incentive to develop an array of skills. No incentive "think outside of the box", because you can just be a good for nothing and still be "good enough" to make great money. That's what "less productivity" means.
It's one reason everyone hates communism (I am not saying that raising the minimum wage is communist). Because "what's the point of getting this highly skilled job, that takes years of work to obtain....when I can get this low skilled job that pays the same?"
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SAME MONEY? who said SAME MONEY?
Even if fast food restaurants earned 15 dollars a month THEY'LL STILL EARN much less than somebody working as a Physician.
No incentive to do other jobs? Says who? Again AS I SAID in the 1950's did it stop people from being Productive just because they were able to earn enough money to become independent and feed a family of 3? NO! they still strived to be better.
You're going on the assumption that HIGHER minimum = less productivity which isn't true, many people strive for much more. Did this stop people from being less productive in the 1950's and 60's? no, people still STRIVED for more. Except the standards for the MINIMUM wage earners was higher instead it's becoming lower.
In fact having a higher MINIMUM can also INCREASE productivity studies have shown this.
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Stop with the 50's or 60's nonese. It was very diferent back then. The people who had MW jobs back then where not kids like today. There where very few women or imigrants, cuz things where still sexist and racist. The women or black person or forener who got a job like that got payed like half as much. Not to mentioned that those jobs where not as comon as today. Before most jobs required some kind of skilled and payed more, while now that the middle class is disapering its more MW jobs by thousands more, and there are more unqualified people in the job market. Back then one family menber got that one job to suport a family, now its not consider for a family provider that job, and both parents can suport a family with MW, althou a small family, but these people canot be having so many children if they cant aford it.
