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Hoodieninja on 05 September 2014
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BMaker11 said:
Hoodieninja said:
BMaker11 said:
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BMaker11 said:

You are quite wrong, in 1950's the MINIMUM wage was able to provide for a FAMILY. Minimum Wage was enough to be independent. The MINIMUM wage in 1968 is about 11 dollars in Today's money.

The Minimum Wage has more positives than negatives when done correctly.

Doctors also get paid 100k because their education is too expensive.

Ummm.....no. Minimum wage was meant to prevent employers from exploiting their employees. Nothing to do with raising a family. Whatever inferred purpose that came after its inception was just a means of people wanting more money. Minimum wage is a wage for a person, not a family.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/minimum_wage

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/MinimumWages.html

And doctors making so much is because of their education expenses? You sure that has nothing to do with it being one of the most difficult jobs, period? That it takes 10+ years of education + rotations, being an understudy, etc. to even be considered for working such a job? That has nothing to do with why doctors get paid so much...it's only to pay for their education. Ok, keep telling yourself that.

You're right that it was indeed for a PERSON, HOWEVER the MINIMUM WAGE was good enough in the 1950's to support a family and ALSO enough for a person to become independent.

exactly 10 plus years, you do realize Doctors also spend years paying off Student Loans and Debts? Actually it's part of the reason why Doctors are so expensive there education is very very expensive, again, they SPEND years sometimes Decades paying off debts.

DO YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO STUDY TO BECOME A DOCTOR?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/1-million-mistake-becoming-a-doctor/

I don't care what minimum wage "could do". I care what it's "meant for". It's meant to prevent employers from exploiting employees. Simple as that. A person can be independent on minimum wage. But nobody tells you to, then, run off and make a family, then demand higher wages because of your actions.

And if you want to stick on doctors, that's cool. But what about engineers? They can get in and out of school in 4 years and make $90K a year and pay off their loans in 2 years. Wanna explain why their pay is so high? What about computer science grads? IT grads? I just used doctor because it's synonymous with "hard job that pays well", pretty universally. But there's other professions that make really great pay, and don't have 10 years of education needed. I stand by my statement of "not everyone can be [insert high paying job]; anybody can flip a burger"

And if you really think doctors are expensive because their education is expensive, then please find me a job that pays a low wage but has 10+ year experience requirements. Because what you're saying is that their experience and years of work have nothing to do with their higher wage; it was the cost of the education.

https://www.aamc.org/download/328322/data/statedebtreport.pdf
No these are exceptions the reason why Doctors pays are so high is because they have a lot of debt, it says in the article that a lot of them spend an Average of a Decade paying off Debts to become a Doctor.

You're assuming everybody has the same expertise to become Special and Better, You're assuming that EVERYBODY can make it in a high paying Job. You're assuming that everybody FLIPPING burgers = Lazyness. It's amazing how the right wing republicans and the rich have Spread this nonsense in the past Decades to keep the Minimum low.
Even if people can't MAKE it working as an IT, working as a Physician or studying to become one, they can still live a Decent life as a Minimum Wage Earner.
Even if they lost there job they can still work a MINIMUM wage job and be decently well off and can ease there burden while they can eventually try again.


Did I say they should run off and make a FAMILY living on minimum? wow...