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Hoodieninja said:
Keegs79 said:
Hoodieninja said:
Keegs79 said:

I will tell you that I have no sympathy for them. The jobs don't take any skills. That is one reason why you don't get paid a lot. Another is that these jobs were never meant to be for people with families. It used to be teenagers that took the brunt of these jobs. I don't know how much that has changed but its ridiculous to consider giving a skill less job a raise. I get paid just over 15 dollars with 14 years in the navy. How much do these people deserve compared to my experience and skills? They deserve the same??? I know a lot of people that do harder work for less than 15 dollars than flipping burgers! I know people start out working in shipyards getting 10 dollars an hour in the heat all day long with actual skills.

Lastly, if they get paid more than some of these people are going to lose their jobs and the prices of the food will go up. You can't have it both ways. Its not about having sympathy. It's logic. It's economics.

Sorry it's not logic.
You get Benefits working in the Government THEY DON'T. If in services you get Food, Free Healthcare and many things for free.

Also NOT EVERYBODY is fit for the Navy.

Also Minimum Wage use to be able to Provide for a family, that's a fact. If anything the MINIMUM wage should be enough for them to get an Education, Provide a Decent Place to stay, Provide for MEDICAL expenses. And it does NONE OF those things correctly.


Wrong. I don't get benefits. I don't work for the government. If they want an education than they need to look for tuition assistance and do what others do. This has been going on for what 30 years or more. I don't know how long but I long time and someone like you NOW thinks they deserve more money? Paying more just screws things for everyone. If the minimum wage were to go up than prices for everything goes up because that money needs to be paid somehow.

Im not in the navy anymore and a stupid excuse is being not fit when they can make themselves so. Besides, the standards are not that high compared to what I believe they should be.

Mr Joe who you would say needs his money for his "education" just lost his job because they had to cut corners to make up for lost revenue or perhaps they need to close completely because they are not getting paid enough to substain business. Medical expenses? Geez. Its a FAST FOOD JOB! It's not meant for a career. Nobody is forcing these jobs on anyone.

1. You claimed you worked for the Navy.
2. The Navy Provides Benefits
3. The Navy is part of the Government

4. Time and time again it doesn't, if anything the RICH corporations need to pay people better, the RICH have been getting RICHER and the poor have been getting POORER that's a fact.

5. What so the person with MINIMUM wage doesn't deserve Medical EXPENSES? I know people who were BANKRUPT because of Medical Expenses and due to them trying to be independent Became nearly Bankrupt and is now in Heavy DEBT due to an Accident.

Tuition Assistance, LOL, looking for more Handouts? Escpecially with people complaining that the Government already spends too much money you want to put a Bigger Burden on the Government?

Hence "did" work in the navy for 14 years. I was referring to my experience in the navy that pays me 15 dollars an hour NOW.  I didn't say I currently do so NO I AM NOT a part of the government. If you had some sense you woud know that the military doesn't pay by the hour.  I worked 14 years in the navy and some guy or chick of the streets deserves to get paid the same with no skills, no education, and no experiece? Hell no. Raising the minimum wage will make prices go up. Economics! Than what? They going to whine about everything being too expensive and want ANOTHER raise? No. Minimim wage has NEVER been good for someone to live on. That is why mostly kids have always did the work. It was always a part time job.

If you want them to have medical benefits than a lot of these jobs will be lost. Plain and simple. Its one reason why Obamacare isn't covered under these jobs.

Tuition assistance doesn't apply that it comes directly from the government and besides that, it is there! It is better for them to use what is available than being paid more and not use any tuition. That would be stupid.