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Burek said:
cpg716 said:
Burek said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Damn, so there are likely more PS plus subscribers than there are X1 users. Not bad at all for a service that severly trailed Gold in the past


If we take into account quite a few of X360 users moving to PS4, then it's not just an increase in PS+ members, but also a decrease in XBL Gold subscribers. 

It is not an accident that MS has not once since XOne's launch mentioned those numbers. They were very willing to give them out in the previous years...

There is no real evidence that X360 users are moving to PS4 in any numbers of significant. People keep saying this as if its fact. 

The ONE poll out there simply asked what consoles the people had RIGHT NOW.  They would say X360 or Wii and then a PS4.  In this case.. ONLY 33% of that group had a WIi or X360 next to there PS4.    so THEN .. then number was thrown out that 33% of PS4 users never came from X360 or Wii.. But the poll NEVER asked if they had sold their PS3 when they bought their PS4.  So that number could be FAR FAR less. And the 33% figure included WIi users..    So again.    There is no real proof that X360 users of any signifcant amount now own PS4's.

 

On topic..    50% penetration with PS Plus is a little lower then I expected with moving to require it for ONLINE play.  I would figure that EARLY adopters of the PS4 would be bigtime gamers and more likely play online (and want free games) and or already had PS Plus for their PS3/Vita. I already had PS Plus when I bought my PS4.  Just surpisingly low in my eyes..

The poll was legit, you can downplay it as much as you want. I believe those numbers, and there will be more of those ex 360 and Wii users buying the superior console offering the best and widest variety games available. It is just common sense and those people will be making a prudent and sensible purchase decision, as will be evident in the coming months.

We will see when, if ever, MS dares to release their figures where their users are. Many people switched consoles due to numerous reasons. 

I didn't say the poll wasn't legit..  Just saying.. It in NO way proves a SINGLE X360 owner switched to PS4.  Not one single person.. Because the question asked WHAT consoles they had right at the moment..   If someone said X360 and PS4..   or Wii and PS4..    all it told was what people who owned a PS4 also owned a Wii or X360..  NOT THAT THEY SWITCHED CONSOLES.   Because they could have EASILY SOLD THEIR PS3 and purchased their PS4. I sold my X360 when I got my X1. I didn't sell my PS3 cause I used it for Blu-Ray on another TV.   But again.. the pull did NOT prove that people switched to a NEW console from X360/Wii..  and again.. even if SOME of those 33% did.. We don't know how mnay were Wii owners or X360..  so again..   We do NOT have all the information to make the claim that ANY X360 or WIi owners converted to PS4..      and also.. the X1 and PS4 have been out for LESS then 10 months..   we can't make any sort of sweeping judgment claims about this generation in 10 months..  either way/



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m