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MDMAlliance said:
Dunban67 said:
MDMAlliance said:

Except you're wrong.  Your link is irrelevant because we have information that contradicts what you stated.  No one even needs to read the link to know that.  All they have to know is that Nintendo has been paying to publish not only 3rd party games in the west, but also reached out and completely revived and funded Bayonetta 2, a 3rd party game that was previously only available on PS3 and 360.  It's not even JUST Bayonetta 2, but Devil's Third as well.  No doubt they're doing more than just this, and they have lightened up a LOT in terms of how they handle indie devs and the sort.  All of this information 100% contradicts the statement that Nintendo doesn't chase down 3rd parties to get games, and that Nintendo hasn't "learnt anything."  You need to actually research before you go talking about something you essentially know very little about.

Except those are exclusive deals they made and paid for- which are great but that is hardly indicative of how well they work with 3rd party devs-  it is very obvious to anyone who is willing and able to take an objective look at the issue-  the proof that Nintendo IS the primary if not only issue re lack of 3rs party support -  when business after business either cuts support or. Never bothers in the 1st place-  that is a Nintendo issue and Nintendo problem -   FYI the article In the link by Emily Rogers is an excellent article and very much gives I site into Nintendo s culture and philosophy-  I m sure some things have changed since then but the basic premise seems to still be in place today 

 

The point is not whether or not the games are exclusive (as any console manufacturing company that pays in full for the development of a game would make it exclusive to their console), but the fact that Nintendo is showing an active interest in 3rd party games.  To what extent is another question, but there's no doubt that they have been more active than before.  Not only that, but Nintendo, for the 3rd parties they DO reach out to, do work well with them.  The evidence is there, you just have to look at what some of them say about working with Nintendo.  Admittedly, most of the ones you will find are indie developers but it definitely is a start.  Given Nintendo doesn't have an all-too-bright past with 3rd party developers, it's only natural that a transitioning period will happen (and is what we're seeing right now).  It wont come all at once, and willingness has to come from both sides, not just Nintendo.

And I'm not arguing against the articles insight of Nintendo.  I'm arguing against it as a basis of what Nintendo is TODAY.  It is dated and proof is already there that Nintendo has been taking steps to changing.  Again, I wasn't trying to refute everything said or even make a comment about what is actually inside the article. I'm just pointing out that Nintendo has, indeed, been taking an active part in 3rd party relations (albeit limited).


Well said-  I can agree with you there- No doubt they are partnering with more third parties to deliver/develop/co develop more games -