| Madword said: I agree you have to be very careful in naming trophies... and the Bros before hoes (sp?) was ill advised. When making a trophy set, you try to make the name of a trophy familiar to the players. For example if I was doing an alphabet game and you got a trophy for getting an answer right on the letter A, you might make it "The A Team"... most designers I've met try to get it to link up in that way (where the trophy is related to a well known term). I do think it was ill advised, but obviously BBH is an american term that is used quite a lot in certain groups/movies... so i can see why they might have thought it was a good idea. To be honest, it should have been picked up by someone saying..hmm you know what this isnt really appropriate. I don't think they were necessarily being sexist...but people will always get offended by it. There are things that might be considered OTT, but again it does all come down to personal taste. As I said my wife thought the lap dancing stuff in GTA was really funny, while I am sure there are people who would get offended by it. She wouldnt get offended by BBH trophy either.. But where do you stop or start... So it is a difficult line to know when to draw that line... can you make a game about certain subjects or is it taboo... can we talk about subjects or can we not. Yeah totally agree with the AC and FC4 games... totally cry wolf. That outrage at Far Cry 4 was really stupid...and some gaming sites complaining about the lack of female characters in AC unity and how disgraceful it was - was poor show considering how many female characters AC has had over the years. The problem i have with it all, is they are all using the word "inclusive" that games should try to have as many groups playing it as possible. That sounds like a fine aim, but its when games are just being made and it doesnt include one of the inclusive groups, then it is suddenly evil or unacceptable. There are many games being made, does every game have to have a male/female/white/black/asian/disabled/powerful... type character. Does every game have to have a well written plot, well formed character, non backgrounds .....etc etc. No it doesn't, and its unfortunate that the witch hunt is going that route right now. AC games being a fine example of that as you pointed out. One AC game doesnt have a playable female character and BOOM... its suddenly a disgrace, gaming sites hassling game companies with Why not!!! I actually feel disappointed about such things like...that if i made a game about rescuing a princess, it would get lambasted because it's sexist and shows the female character as weak, or that it is using well known "trope" (hate that word)... when all it is - is a fun game about rescuing a computer character that happens to be female. Hopefully gaming snaps out of it because it's a little depressing that the agenda is being pushed down peoples throats. Anyway really interesting conversation, appreciate it :) |
Yeah, I definitely don't agree with forced "diversity". Diversity is fine when it comes naturally, but developers shouldn't be obliged to put it in their game and they shouldn't feel the need to justify their decision either... unless their doing something really dumb like setting a game in ancient egypt and having the characters be blonde haired and blue eyed, then they should get called out for historical innacuracy. But yeah, they should have the freedom to create.
You might not agree with the people who get offended by sexism but I'm glad that you can be atleast be objective, some people can't even see any perspective other than their own.
