Where did the Big Bang Come from?

[CommonNinja]

Torillian said:

Can you see how annoying that answer is to someone scietifically minded though?  Basically everything has to follow logic except when it gets to a religious answer.  You follow the rules of logical debate right up until you can't without losing and then you simply define god in a way that "wins" you the argument.  It's like we're playing checkers and when I make my move you grab the gameboard, smash it on the table, and say god created the big bang.  

Not really.

You see, naturalist will ask "where did God come from" and Christians will answer "God has always exzisted as he is not confined by t-p-s (Time, Space, & Matter).

Naturalist will then argue that that is not a good enough answer as "everything has to have had a beginning". 

 

However, creationist will then as "where did matter come from" or "where did the laws of Science and Logic come from"

And naturalist will either answer:

A:  "they have always exzisted"

B: "they were created by the big bang from nothing"

 

So either way you are leaving simple 'logic' behind when you start to talk about the Orgin of the universe as something (either God or Time, Space & Matter) had to have exzisted forever and never have and orgin, OR the second option (which is stupid in my point of view) is that something had to have spontaniously arose from nothing.