Why can't the U just be a late bloomer?

[Scisca]

padib said:

Scisca said:

padib said:

The idea is that the Wii sold on Nintendo's merits first and foremost. As usual, with Nintendo, 3rd parties don't take business risks, they piggyback onto Nintendo's success. The same can't be said about the PS or the XB, and so that is why 3rd party support doesn't have the same logic in terms of success between Nintendo consoles and the other two. That's why you can't use PSXB logic on Nintendo consoles, it just doesn't work.

Stop turning Nintendo into a victim. They have to bear the consequences of their own business decisions just like every other company.

Also, you are manipulating saying that "GCN had good 3rd party support". In the past 3rd party wasn't what it became in the PS360 era. Back in the day 3rd party exclusives were the norm, now a 3rd party exclusive is breaking news. We now live in the era of 3rd party multiplats, but Nintendo gimped its consoles and pushed itself out of this mainstream. While everyone knows that 95% of games on PS360 and on PS4One are gonna be the same and the few exclusives will make the difference, Nintendo has to deal with the fact, that they are the odd man out, not capable of running these 95% of games.

It would really be interesting if Wii U was on par with PS4One, being able to run 3rd party multiplats and joining the fight with Sony and MS in the field of exclusives. I think the result would be much better than what the Wii U has become.

@bold. Ahahahaha, don't make me laugh. Where in there did I say Nintendo was a victim. lol on the contrary I am stating the realities of the market as they are, Nintendo decided to differentiate themselves that way it's not a coincidence. Haha, you're funny.

@last paragraph. I don't. It doesn't, never has, and never will change anything for the success of a Nintendo console. Nintendo's consoles sell on the merits of Nintendo games, that's all. The 3rd party multiplats wouldn't have sold, and 3rd parties would have said "We won't release another mature game on the U, only games like Just Dance." blabla

@bold - the part that goes "3rd parties don't take business risks, they piggyback onto Nintendo's success. The same can't be said about the PS or the XB" sounds alot like "bad 3rd parties treat Nintendo worse than they treat MS and Sony", which is bs, as Sony has painfully learned with the Vita. They judge every console on its own and don't care who manufactures it. Nintendo is where it's at because of their own choices and nobody can blame 3rd parties. If that's not what you wanted to say - my bad.

@last paragraph - "times, they are a changing". Nintendo ignoring 3rd parties is a constant decline generation from generation and this will drive them out of the market. Ninty made it impossible for 3rd parties to make ports on part with the competing platforms and that's why they don't sell. People don't buy inferior products, that's the same reason why Xbone is selling so bad. But I just wonder how well Wii U would do if it offered us the full 3rd party experience at a PS4/XO level and all the Ninty exclusives. There's no doubt in my mind many people would go with Wii U as their main console this gen, something which is pretty much impossible right now.

I'm starting to think what are the chances of them releasing a "New Wii U" next year or so, beefed up to be on par with competition. They could even have an interesting upgrade program in which they'd just change the console without suffering the cost of the controller, which would stay with you.