wilco said:
1. You still haven't presented compelling evidence that she misrepresented facts. And by saying that men don't get all "uppity" you are basically suggesting that there is something inherently wrong with expressing opinions on these issues. 2. As you have basically said in your post these women are a means to an end. They are important not as characters but as plot devices. If something is used only as a means to an end it is less significant by definition. Now lets be clear because this seems to be a crucial point of contention for people like you, that example from watch dogs does not mean that ALL women are less significant, it means that those particulary sex slaves in that particular game are less significant. Lets also be clear that I don't think there is anything wrong with using them as a plot device. I'm simply arguing that they are in fact nothing more than background decoration. Sarkeesian used this example as one example that is part of a bigger trend. Sarkeesian most likely has a problem with the larger trend rather than each and every specific example. The argument of course is that the pervasiveness of these kinds of images in pop culture has a deliterious affect on women who consume this media. I can't really comment on that but it would make sense. I can't fault Sarkeesian for wanting to see women represented in a way that is not just the same tropes trotted out time and again. Hopefully these videos will encourage developers to think outside the box. It doesn't mean that games like watch dogs can't have storylines like that anymore, that is not what this should be about. 3. It doesn't matter where the word orignates from. Its incredibly stupid. 4. She's biased? What is her Bias? The fact that her videos are "controversial" really says something about the gaming community. Part of the reason that her videos on books and movies aren't as popular is because there is no controversy. Only in video games is pointing out obvious sexism as sexism deemd "controversial". There is absolutely nothing controversial about her videos. Her videos are not done in a sensationalist manner, she isn't spewing vitriolic venom at men, she isn't going on angry rants, she isn't even condemning the video game industry the way other groups have in the past... and yet she is "controversial". That, is the thing I find most shocking about all this. And please stop comparing this to violence in video games. Sarkeesian isn't asking that video games be banned. She isn't saying that all video games need to cater to her personal feminist philosophy. She is just pointing some stuff out. You don't need to take a defensive stance. Noone is trying to take your video games away. Also, the really bad violence in video games is relegated to the M rated stuff, but sexism in video games is available to all ages. |
1. I have never done so, I never said it was wrong. You're misrepresenting what I said. Just like she does. I also never suggested such things.
2. Again, those Woman portrayed in the game are not less signifigant, she is an Important part of the plot device.
3. No, not really.
4. Nothing Controversial about her lol. That is like saying Rush Limbaugh is just pointing out that the sexim argument is stupid. No Controversy right there.
No Controversy when Michael Moore is just pointing out the truth about Guns in America.
She's as much of a Sensationalist as these commentators.
Did I say Video Games banned? You're really jumping the gun here.
Sexism? lol Mario is Sexist, I remember hearing that argument and how it was debunked so many times. The fact that you believe that Sexist is apparently available in all ages proves that her Sexist Crusade is working.







