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PullusPardus said:
VXIII said:

The first "cause", someone / something that is beyond the law of physics, timeless, and like no other thing that you can observe or fully understand.

 

Either you are a religious or "scientific", it requires you lot of faith to form a belief about this subject. The two debating camps have a lot in common and they never really realized it.

Not unless you're neo-christian or creationist. Science have become a taboo subject  to a lot of them recently. Islamic countries on the other hand  are too dumb to understand half of it and too preoccupied about killing one another, so they just don't bother making it taboo. "Better blow some jihad out and kill  those kafara than debate. Either way we're going to heaven anyways" it's like the Islamic way of saying "Yolo" but it was took to the next level "You only live truly after death " YOLTAD", they should shout that instead of "takbir" 

"..قُلْ سِيرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ فَانْظُرُوا كَيْفَ بَدَأَ الْخَلْقَ"

"Travel through the land and think about how creation  has began .."

I care about the original principles, I don't care about how people do or where they end up.