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spemanig said:
the_dengle said:

I don't see the point to having unrealistic expectations. I wouldn't even know what to do with an 80-fighter roster.

Some of the best fighting games have very small rosters. Look at a game like Under Night In-Birth. Small, extremely diverse roster. I'd much rather have 20 really unique Pokemon than 80 that are mostly really similar.

Again, I don't particularly want to play as Voltorb or Grimer or Keldeo in a fighting game. Give me Poliwrath, give me Heracross, give me Breloom, I'll be happy. Interesting designs with unique properties. Pikachu, Charizard, and Mewtwo are probably all given.


I don't think it's unrealistic when the Naruto fighting games, which are also made by Bamco, have rosters that big. And who says it'll get to Voltorb or Grimer or Keldeo? There are like 700+ Pokemon to choose from. 

That is incorrect. The Naruto games are published by Bamco; they are made by CyberConnect2. Harada has nothing to do with them.

Anyway those games are shit so they're not exactly the golden standard to which Pokken should be compared. And I just used those mons as examples to illustrate that not all Pokemon would be appropriate for this style of gameplay. In fact, I feel that the vast majority of Pokemon would be redundant or simply not interesting enough for inclusion.

Come on. You know there aren't going to be 80 playable Pokemon. That number is absurd. There is one fighting game with a roster that size, it is the fourth game in its series and it was outsourced to the developers of .hack. Tekken 6 didn't have anywhere near that many characters -- Tekken SIX. So when I say "unrealistic" I don't mean it's impossible to have a game with that many characters, or that the game shouldn't have that many characters. I mean it's not going to have that many playable characters. It simply won't. It is unrealistic to expect that many because there is absolutely no precedent anywhere in the information we know about this game's developer or publisher and their respective histories of game development that would lead us to the conclusion that Pokken will have anywhere close to 80 playable characters.

I would be more than happy with 25 because I am expecting this to be a fighting game, an action game built on reflexes, muscle memory, and mind games. If I was expecting it to be a Pokemon game, an RPG based on team-building and customization, I should certainly expect a larger variety of tools.