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the_dengle said:
o_O.Q said:
the_dengle said:
I wish everyone would just recognize science and spirituality as the same thing.


people have become too materialistic believing that the only things that matter are the things we can measure with our instruments

Please, the other side is just as stubborn. Studying the Universe is a profound experience. Anyone who uses science to justify their atheism doesn't know the meaning of the word miracle, and is little more than a pretender. But the same is true of a religious person who faces the Universe with a closed mind, refusing to allow the truth to deepen their connection to the cosmos.

Scientific study is one of the most enlightening experiences available to people, no matter their religion or lack thereof, regardless of how many Gods they believe in, if any. Questions like the OP are important. It's also important to keep asking them, and not simply settle for an answer like "whatever, God did it." Maybe we will never find another answer, but it is through questions such as these that we have learned so much about our place in the Universe. The more we learn, the more questions we raise -- the more miracles we uncover.

seeing things as someone who is relegated to one "side" or another doesn't really help in the long run i think but anyway

i'm not denying the value of scientific study, but i think what is needed is a balance instead of jumping to either extreme, that people should see the value in both

and with regards to what i said about god i'm simply seeing that as the initial cause for the universe

so we'd still have to try to investigate it to determine its exact nature but as i said before i don't think its something we'll be able to understand with our current methods of investigation that we'll have to expand our world view