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Zekkyou said:
VXIII said:

The first "cause", someone / something that is beyond the law of physics, timeless, and like no other thing that you can observe or fully understand.

Either you are a religious or "scientific", it requires you lot of faith to form a belief about this subject. The two debating camps have a lot in common and they never really realized it.

I don't really understand why there is a debate at all. People have as much chance of comprehending a situation outside the parameters of the universe they live in as they do of imagining infinity. You can't.

It's not religion vs science, it's philosophy vs philosophy.


The value of triumph. It is high in the mind of debating people, the feeling of victory is satisfying.

On the other hand, the value of acceptance and understanding is so low. So one side only looking for counter argument without really trying to find the truth or get a knowledge out of it.

"long dispute proves that both sides are wrong"