| theprof00 said: Just went through a read of hylian. Got to page 15 and decided to call it a wrap. Here's what I got. I just want to apologize, Hylian. I didn't realize how I just made you completely irrelevant. Well, I mean I kinda did, and did it on purpose...as punishment for agreeing with padib over myself. I realize that was very self-centered and I can see how I contributed to your lack of fun. I think you are a very intelligent person, and you have a knack for aggressive play as I do. I think you should keep playing. If you're mafia, congratz, you've cleverly outplayed me. But I don't think you are. You've been a very difficult read, especially since the things you seem to be pushing for are things that unnecessarily complicate the game and contribute to confusion. I know at times I can seem very out there with my theories, but I'm also very experienced, and I know what going to far is. I think you're town, and I'm just going to put my faith in you at this point. We are near end-game and I need to start making some concrete decisions if I want to figure anything out. Additionally I apoloigize for any personal attacks. Please understand that I was only doing it to draw out reactions...and because, well, sometimes you just have to be really hard on people in this game, because as you've seen so far- Everyone begs for their life. They ALL lash out, whether it's mafia or town. Anyway, I just want you to have a good time from here on out. Please accept my apology. Also, top 4 suspects please. :D |
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Huh...
Well...you certainly seem sincere. Can't say I expected this though. Wow. Thanks I guess. I considered ragequitting at several points, but I kept coming back. Partially because if I modkilled myself when town was already losing, everyone would fucking hate me, and probably not let me play mafia again if I ever wanted, but also because I...was actually having some fun. I'll certainly be returning whenever a game with the right flavor pops up. And I am starting to get why you go hard on people. Like you said, everyone lashes out, especially if their life is on the line. It's the nature of the game.
Apology accepted for now. You're about as town as you can get (outside of a cop report from a cop confirmed town in a flip), so it's not like I have anything to lose.
Top 4 suspects:
1. WhiteEagle
2. Nickles
Long story short on those two, I don't buy it that there's two trackers that do the exact same thing (though I'm still a bit confused about how WhiteEagle's tracking works). I lean towards WhiteEagle for the same reasons everyone else does. Contradictions, what looks to be a hammering of Sparks (though to be fair, I've twice in this game voted for Sparks), and potentially a lie about Cone. Noname pointed out this post which suggests that Cone got actual confirmation from WoW that he was at Sparks' house. Whether he actually would have been able to save Sparks if necessary is another story, because obviously he might have been role blocked, but WoW's language suggests that the roleblock, if Cone was indeed roleblocked, doesn't stop Cone from going to the house of his choice, it merely stops him from being able to save the person from his wounds, should the person be wounded. The only other solution to the contradiction is that WE was roleblocked, but why the fuck would they target him with a roleblocker? How could they have known he had an investigative role when he had almost no activity? Why would they block an investigative role (that they don't even know about, but even if they did) when you can block the doctor? It doesn't add up.
3. Outlaw
Wasn't even on this list until your investigation of him. Though I did make some notes about him yesterday that made me realize he wasn't as town as I thought he was. I had thought he was town because he was behaving like I expected him to based on my experience with him elsewhere. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's town. I guess I put way too much stock into his being helped by padib, which makes no sense either, and the fact that after day one, you also defended him. I didn't agree with your reasoning, as you said his cowardice to vote himself meant he was town, and that was the one point during the padib test that I actually felt you were right about, though I didn't want to say it at the time because I wanted to save padib's power. At the same time, though, since you, padib, myself, and others thought he was town, I stopped looking into him, as the town seemed to have reached a concensus I agreed with. I also stopped looking into padib, because I thought the test made an excellent case for him being a townie, even if we did lose the power. As for padib, he's not in my top 4, but I'm beginning to think I may have been mistaken to trust him. He was nice to me, defended me, encouraged me, and always seemed to agree with me. I liked his attitude that town should work together. I feel like I'm almost betraying him here, but I think you were right to place him as "somewhat town". He may have been herding all the noobs to follow him. Still, I don't have padib on the list because I'm 50-50 right now on his townieness. Your investigations have certainly helped me reconsider some things.
4. Khan
Ugh...I don't even fucking know with him. He sometimes sort of makes contributions, but often is echoing someone. He makes some interesting posts when he's angry that sometimes alleviate my fears, but nothing he's said has led anywhere. He does come up with reasoning when pressed to, but sometimes it's just that he's going with his best hunch. Other times, he has pretty good reasoning, but that might have been echoing too. As for the bomb claim, I don't see it as impossible, but it is unlikely. He seems unclear about it. I'm not entirely clear how his power works either.
Ugh, why is it 3 AM? Fuck my life. I wanted to post more, but my thoughts are mostly summed up here, and I have class in the morning, so I'm going to bed. I'll finish organizing my thoughts into notes tomorrow in class and post them when I get around to it.
