| whiteknight101 said: Look, I'm probably a bit older than you, and remember a world before the internet, 4chan and VGChartz. In that world, there were pretty firm rules for what was news and what was rumour-mongering. To make a long story short, back in those days there was a pretty widely held opinion that mob rule was a bad thing and that allegations and accusations against people should be handled under a set of strict rules demanding a high level of certainty, and that the burden of proof was on the accuser, not the accused. Back in those days, these kinds of things went through the professional press - because there was nothing else - and stuff like this would never have been discussed because there is not much proof of anything beyond Quinn being a shitty girlfriend. Call me an old fart, but I believe that way of doing things had its virtues, and the modern way of doing things where the burden of proof is now apparently on the accused has been shown time and time again to lead to not much good.To be perfectly honest, I'm kind of morally outraged, and feel that this whole business of the internet collectively poking into peoples private lives and harrassing them is kind of disgusting, and, maybe, a sign of worse things to come. I mean, it's one thing if someone opts to post about their own dirty laundry online - then they should have known better. In this case it was Quinns ex who posted a bunch of stuff about her because he was pissed. And honestly, having read his blog I think he might have had good reason to be pissed. Quinn sounds like a pretty shitty girlfriend. But thing is, I had girlfriends who were shitty like that, and I have been shitty like that too, and in fact most people are at one point or another if they live long enough. I don't want a world where anyone at any time is under threat of having their private life attacked by an internet mob if they at some point was shitty to some boyfriend or girlfriend. To me that is more threatening than the "censorship" you feel it is when you're not allowed to freely opine of what goes on in other peoples bedrooms. I guess that might be a generational issue. For me, my right to privacy is worth more than the "freedom" of the internet to come sniffing up my ass and check if I wiped it today, whether my wife tipped you off disregarding. Then if the reason the internet comes sniffing up my ass is some high minded bullshit about corruption in the game industry, whether it is in the name of libertarian principles, or if it's in pursuit of lulz (as they used to say), I don't care. |
The topic really at hand to be discussed is less about Zoey Quinn and more about video game jouralism and development as a whole. Which if the accusations are indeed true that Zoey Quinn was using sex to advance her way up in the industry then it shows how corrupt this medium has become. So really the accusations cannot go to Zoey alone, that's not fair, anybody involved has to take the blame for it. Which includes the reddit mod who mass censored /r/gaming while chatting on Twitter with Zoey and the topic being avoided on certain sites or else there exists the threat of being fired. Which if true those are the issues I believe exist with this controversy.
I do there is way too much focus on the event of she having sex with those five guys and the question is if that is really wrong, if her relationship is technically on a break instead of what it could mean beyond that. We have to accept that we live in a time where information travels quickly and everybody has access which holds a variety of positives and negatives. So the two sides to the coin are this, if Zoey was a better girlfriend then the situation probably would have never happened, regarding this specific controversy and the other side is the people who Zoey had sex with should have seperated their work and love life.
Does Zoey and the other guys deserve criticism for censorship AND the insults towards other people AND refusial to tell the whole story? I think so but not on the scale that Zoey especially has been getting like saying she's ugly or a slut which is what especially drove the feminist articles that have more or less taken the spotlight in the situation. Afterall Zoey is still a human being and Depression Quest was a good thing she did. But if the corruption accusations are true, then I think gamers do deserve to hear that Zoey and the guys involved did something wrong.
I don't have much to say other than what has already been said in this thread.
