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DonFerrari said:
wilco said:
DonFerrari said:

How can you say d-pad on x360 is better than on ds3 when it seems you largely just play with x360 controller?

About player identification it regards side of the screen. With eye and ds4 if you and you friend change place on the couch the position you play will change.

Did not say it was better, just not any less reliable. I own a ps3 and I have used the DS3 before. The d-pad was good but my post 2010 360 d-pad worked just as well. I've also used the DS4 long enough to know that the d-pad is basically the same as the DS3. 

Any feature of the DS4 that requires the eye to work is almost not even worth talking about. The eye is less relevant than the kinect and thats saying something.

Ok for not less reliable you are just talking about breaking and input fail or easyness of use and usage on genres where it had problems before 2010?

So from ds3 being enough to identify player (same for Wii and x360, using small leds, x360 is actually easier and more visible) and after explaining you just disregard because of eye... This don't need special coding from devs, it is as usefull (or irrelevant if you preffer) as xbox os voice commands (which work through mic on ps4). Haven't saw much x1 fans saying how useless voice commands were, have you?

The only thing I need my d-pad to do is acurrately read my input. Pre-2010 xbox 360 controllers, you press left and end up going down. Yes, those d-pad's were TERRIBLE. Post 2010 360 controllers do exactly what I request and that is all I need. I actually prefer the adjustable d-pad 360 controllers over the XB1's d-pad. The XB1 d-pad doesn't stick out far enough for my liking.

From what I have heard the only reason why the xbox voice commands are so "useful" is because ms specifically designed the interface to be used with kinect. The XB1 interface is designed to make you hate using a controller, that was a decision, that is not the way it needs to be. That is called creating a problem then selling the solution. That is the same way I feel devs are approaching the touchpad, they create gameplay scenarios that would have been perfectly fine being left on the cutting room floor, but now gamers feel those things are necessary, when in reality, they've just created that perception to justify a gimmick.