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thx1139 said:
overman1 said:
thx1139 said:
overman1 said:
Baalzamon said:
overman1 said:

For who exactly?

Definitely not the middle class...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/sunday-review/americas-productivity-climbs-but-wages-stagnate.html?_r=0

I don't know about you, but I make an average wage, and invest a significant amount of my money in the stock market. When those companies are making more money because they aren't paying taxes, my investments are growing faster. When I sell these investments, I pay my fair share to Uncle Sam (and rightfully so).

Good for you but not every American has that previldge and a lot of them are there by cicumstance and are just as hardworking as you can be. I am an unmarried US Navy trained Nuke Engineer with a bachelors degree. I will consider myself vey fortunate to be making the kind of money I make because I know alot of my friends who are just as educated as I am and still need a second sometimes third jobs to keep themselves and family afloat. 

And your value to society cant be measured by how much money you make.  Because teachers get paid less then an electrical engineer mean they add less value to society? Is a nurse less valuable to society then a stock broker? Is a social worker worth less to society then a computer programmer?

Sadly enough, in the US right now they are considered to be. Lets not even get into the idea of the educational system that is extremely flawed. Despite being one of the most important jobs, the teaching profession is not very prestigous or valued; teachers are severely underpaid and many state goverments are taking funding from school. The rich who are able to influence decision through the lobbying they do, are enrolling their own kids in Charter school. Now I have absolutely nothing with Charter school but when the public school system is rotting and there is no incentive for improvement why should the education matter again?

My take on the whole charter school and vouchers for schools are they are really just away for people who dont want either a secular education or dont want money to both public schools through taxes while they send thier kids to private schools.  This way they get money back from the taxes they pay or they can choose a school that doesnt teach that evil stuff like evolution.

The myth is that they are paying to educate their children. Why can't they educate their children how they wish? Oh yeah, school isn't about education it is about state indoctrination.