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BHR-3 said:

   

     Ive been reading alot of things on here here lately like TR exclusivity, MS getting a over 2 yr old Diablo 3 to run @1080p, and the ongoing XB1 vs WiiU sales war, but what i havent been seeing is how MS is going to get the XB1 to 80M WW and 40M in US.  There have been alot of claims that some how MS will hit a stride and get things going with there XB1 starting this holiday season but noone is really saying how this will occur.  Its very easy to see that MS XB1 will never achieve its sales of the 360 not even in US to understand this we have to get a little history lesson on how MS was able to do this with there 360.

MS 360 was released in 2005 a full year earlier than the PS3 and Wii, gaming at the time i feel was on the upraise after the success of the ps2 when the 360 released it was the first HD console to plug in your new HD LCD TV it also brought online gaming and social gaming to the next level.  By the time the PS3 and Wii hit for most gamers there was really no reason to game on those platforms other than for exclusive games, the 360 had all the best 3rd party games and played them superiorly.  This gen the XB1 doesnt have anything new or innovative or released early anywhere in fact it has a delayed release in alot of areas WW and has been having alot of negative press on multiple issues with the console and MS as a whole.

The main reason why the XB1 wont achieve the sales of its predecessor that no one has talked about or thought of is that the last gen user base numbers are massively skewed even for both HD consoles.  The 360 doesnt not have 80M plus users WW or 40M in the US... not even close in fact its the most skewed  user base to sold units out of all three consoles last gen.  Its the most skewed for a few reasons it was reported to have a high of 54.2% failure rate and had failure issues from launch till 2009 thats 4 yrs.  It also was the only console to release a redesign that actually was superior to the original design which would give you a higher rate of re purchases.  As of right now it doesnt look like the XB1 is having any type of out of the norm failure rates rebuys will not be as dramatic.

In conclusion using this analogy if in reality there were only 50-60M live active 360 owners/fans WW last gen and if quite a few got a bad taste from the DRM 180s and inferior performance of the XB1 i believe that its going to be impossible for the XB1 to come close to the 360s sales performance anywhere around the globe... well expect for China and other areas where the 360 was not being sold


ive said it before and i truly honestly believe it, if the Xbox 360 wasnt such a turd in the reliability market it wouldnt have sold as good as it did.  i personally went through 3 before they extended the warrenty, which means i bought 3 xbox 360s when my 3rd one died is when i got it repaired by MS and then sold it i was done with the 360 at that point.   The same goes for about 10 family members where they all bought at least 2 of them if not more and a good chunk of friends i have did the same, i know only 2 people who still have working launch 360s and those people didnt play it much.  ill bet the same goes for a majority of 360 owners, this in my opinion inflated the numbers drastically, i remember reading somewhere in 2011 that it was estimated about 30% of the 360s sold at that time were second or third replacement systems for people.

 

and to those that say ms replaced the majority the answer is yes but only after 2 years of the problem being around my first 360 died roughly 3 months after purchase my second 360 died about 6 months after that my 3rd one died right after they anounced that they will do free repairs on the system in early 2007