| BMaker11 said: Aaaaaaand you've missed the point yet again. |
Not really, your point is just irrelevant and wrong. You're not going to understand, you're too deeply engaged in console warz and "you guys!!" bullshit.
| BMaker11 said: It's all related because it's you guys, once again, backing something that is detrimental to the gaming industry. "Of course the same people who excused MS making you pay for online will excuse 3rd parties doing it because it's something on the Xbox". That's what you're doing. |
You guys, lol.
Detrimental, lol.
Since when are 3rd parties making anyone pay for online? Since when is this optional service making anyone do anything? I think I understand why you are harping on the past, your tin foil hattery doesn't really have a leg to stand on in the present. It's ok. But it doesn't really open up any sort of healthy discussion. I mean hey guys u guys were all like "boooooooooo!" when only m$ charged for online now sony does and ur all like "whooooooooooo!". Baseless generalizations are fun.
| BMaker11 said: The topic's content may be a "tangent" (referring to this ESPN App, amongst other things, being acceptable to be behind a paywall even though you already pay for it), but it all falls back on the original accusation. Because you guys have been doing it for over a decade. I mean...."lol @ should disagree about? Why? Because VGC forum guys say so". No, because hiding the Netflix you already pay for behind XBL was wrong. Hiding Internet Explorer to use the internet you already pay for behind XBL was wrong. Hiding multiplayer, which is half of a game and was free everywhere else behind XBL is wrong. And the Xbox community said it was ok to do. Hence the lead up to "of course, the same people who excused all that other bad stuff will excuse the next bad thing".That being EA Access. We've already been wary about other publishers doing it, and all the Xbox side has done was "stop looking at this negatively. Quit speculating. You don't know that that's gonna happen" to try and support EA Access. And what happens? Activision and Ubisoft are already looking into getting their own subs now. |
You guys, lol.
The topics content is fine. Things got stupid with that post though and the detour its been taken on.
Why do I need to think it's ok that MS put Netflix behind a paywall in order to buy Live? What if I just want an awesome MP experience? When I pick my cable package, it might include 20 home repair channels and 5 MTV stations but it doesn't mean I need to "support" them or "accept" what they do just because they are included.
MS isn't even the first company to build their own network or charge for online play. Are you sure you're directing this bellyaching at the right "you guys"? Sorry, I don't know how these team warz workz.
| BMaker11 said: On a side note: Xbox Live doesn't "give you access" to any apps. Any app available on Xbox can be found on other devices. Your FIOS, for example, can be found on any blu ray player with Samsung SmartHub. Or if you have an iPhone (or something with iOS), you can shoot it to your TV with Apple TV. Or just hook an HDMI cable up to your computer (or use Chromecast). And more. None of which make you pay a sub. And I don't know where you get that XBL lets you watch things you'd normally have to pay for with your ISP. Like what? What normally for-pay entertainment via your ISP can you get for "free" with XBL? |
Why do I care that the apps are on other devices? You do understand value, and how different people will value things differently, yes?
It's awesome that there is a Samsung BR player that also has FIOS TV. If I were in the market for a BR player, that would certainly make whichever Samsung players have it more appealing to me. Of course, I already have an Xbox One, which is also a BR player, so... yeah. You can connect the dots. I buy Live during $40 sales. It literally pays for itself with the FIOS app after 1/3 of a year. That's value. Same logic applies to all those other devices you listed. That's great. I don't have or want those products though.
And I have used the FIOS app to watch multiple channels when I did not have them, including Animal Planet and MTV. Plus the ESPN app when I did not have that, plus more recently the NFLN. Though its irrelevant now as I have all those channels in my package. Hope that helped, not going to reply anymore. Good luck against "you guys".
