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prinz_valium said:
Xevross said:

 

I never said anything failed to move units. I said they failed relative to what PS4 is doing, yes TF gave a small boost but it wasn't sustained and till the Xb1 could not top PS4. The kinectless sku definitely moved units, hence the massive boost in June but again, it couldn't help Xb1 match PS4 and the weekly ratio is back getting close to 3:1 even after both of those have happened. Sure, without them XB1 would be in an even worse place but in the long term they have done nothing, XB1 sales are back to the lows of the pre kinectless announcement. I'm saying that these bundles in the future will of course help but it won't stop PS4 outselling XB1 by a good ratio


okay. and i never said it could top ps4. just boosted the xbox one itself

because without the titanfall bundle and new sku, the ps4 would have outsold the xb1 4:1 woldwide in h1 2014 and not only 3:1

and because the new cheaper sku bundle with free game, tier 2 and finally some games it will be just 2:1 (or even less) in h2 2014

And I disagree, I think their effect will be small and easily countered by Destiny.