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padib said:
HylianSwordsman said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I wanted to prove your claim, plain and simple. "Lynching" outlaw provided that, a lot of discussion over whether we should do it or not,  which to me is as good or maybe even better as discussion over the lynching another random townie because in the end we didn't lose a townie (provided Outlaw is town, of course). Also, you're the one who wasted your ability, no one else.

We're supposed to be on a team. Regardless of how bad an idea you think it was, making an effort to eliminate a power that could save us in a LyLo situation is a scummy thing to do. And I don't think we were discussion lynching another random townie, we were discussing lynching someone we had a better case against, thereby increasing our chances of getting a mafia.

THIS. I'm so glad you're in this game. Looks like Trucks isn't going to be honest about his day 1 vote.

Hylian, about your reads, I am thinking that we need to push our Cone investigation. I still have no idea why he opted to protect me. As a townie he would be looking to protect someone who wasn't vanilla.

So it's either he:

1) Wasn't paying attention or

2) Made a poor fakeclaim.

What do you think?


I've already said we shouldn't lynch Cone today, but that's based on him telling the truth. I consider there to be an excellent chance that he's telling the truth about being a doctor. Also, if you recall, he did leave early. Remember the "I hope this post isn't my last" post? That was before a lot of important events. That said, if he didn't at least read through what happened after that before making his decision on who to target, that was really irresponsible of him. So let's go through the possibilities.

1st, the one I've been assuming thus far. He's telling the truth about being a doctor. If so, I do believe he's mafia, as having a doctor and a bodyguard on the same team is a broken combo in any game, and something that WoW should have been looking for especially in a role madness game (no vanilla), as per the article I linked earlier. There's a small chance he's town, though, so keeping him alive could be beneficial. Protecting you could just have been a noob move and maybe he'll improve for night 2. On the other hand, having a mafia doctor suggests that there's a vigilante, and leaving a mafia doc alive seems relatively inconsequential to me, so long as we have a better case for another mafia that might have a more dangerous role. The only real consequence is that the vig just needs to wait a bit to use his shot, something that vigs often do anyway.

2nd, what I've been ignoring thus far, is the possibility that he's lying about being a doc. It's not impossible that he simply wasn't paying attention, and that and the fact that he protected a vanilla could be explained as a noob mistake, though not one I'd have made. But then, who else would I protect? I suspected prof, you'd drawn a lot of negative attention, and I had no leads as to other roles aside from RCT's bulletproof claim that suggests he could protect himself. I might have just chosen a random person that I had no suspicions of and that I suspected still had a power. On the other hand, if I insisted on working strictly off of what I know, I might have chosen you. In light of the events the next morning, if I'd chosen you I'd be really embarrased to admit it, but I'd probably say so anyway simply because lying about it probably wouldn't help the town and if it came to light later that I lied about my target I might get lynched and that wouldn't be good for town either. So if he's actually a town doctor, I'm inclined to believe he did target you, because if he's a mafia doctor or just a straight up liar about being a doctor, then that's a REALLY poor fakeclaim, so much that I wouldn't even put it past a noob.