The Religious Argument Thread!

[Nintentacle]

bouzane said:

Nintentacle said:

There is burden of proof on both sides; No piece of evidence can indefinitely prove that God does or doesn't exist.

Although, I don't understand the Big Bang, it doesn't make sense to me. How can nothing, at all, exist, and the Big Bang happen? Because if something existed before the Universe, than that was a part of the Universe, because the Universe contains everything that existed. Wouldn't it make more sense to say the Universe always existed (In the sense of time), and the Earth, Sun, Moon, etc. were formed over the course of billions of years? That's what I would say if I were an atheist.

No, it is not, it is always on the party that makes the claim. You need to prove that something exists, not the other way around. If it was the other way around you would need to prove that leprechauns don't exist.

The thing about the Big Bang is that all of the evidence that we have supports the theory, we have actual proof to back up our assertions. It is still a theory for the same reason that our understanding of gravity is still theoretical, we need to be 100% certain about every aspect of the theory before it becomes scientific fact. Until that day in the distant future we will continue to teach it as a principle because the scientific community knows that it is correct, just not every single last detail.

That being said, if god needed to exist in order to create the Universe, why does nothing need to exist before god in order to create it? This god character does not explain anything without raising further questions. Additionally, there is literally zero evidence to support the existence of god, therefore I remain an atheist.

Yes, there is. There is no way that I can prove, 100%, that a God exist, and vise versa. The neutral position would be that you don't think there is a God personally, but you think there is a possibilty of one existing, or the other way around.

Because God is an eternal being, which is why if I were an Atheist, I would assume that the Universe always existed, because there was nothing that existed to cause the Big Bang. Which I think would actually make sense from an atheistic view-point, because people believe something caused the Big Bang, which would imply that something existed before it, meaning the something (I.E. the Universe) existed before the Big Bang, but not the planets, stars, etc. at the time. 

In other words, there had to be something there to create the Universe, and depending on your views, it is either a God or something unknown (But technically one could say God created the unknown thing, but that doesn't really help the argument in any way)