The Religious Argument Thread!

[Nighthawk117]

Nintentacle said:

Nighthawk117 said:
Here's my 2 cents:

Does God Exist?

Let's look at this question from another perspective:

Pretend God exists as well as heaven.

So, say we're all dead and wind up in heaven.

What would we do there?
Could we watch porn? Play violent video games?
Could we have sex, do drugs, listen to rock 'n roll?
Could we get into fights, use curse words, give someone we hate the finger?

What exactly would be do in our afterlives in heaven?
Do we just sit around talking politely and singing religious songs?
What rules would we have to follow?

I don't know about you, but I for one wouldn't want to be someone's slave in heaven. I love the freedom I enjoy on the planet Earth.

For instance, I could go outside right now and shoot someone if I wanted - what's stopping me? Not God, but the laws created by man, and the man-made justice system that would hunt me down and prosecute me.

Still, at least I have the freedom to do anything I want, when I want.

I cannot see heaven enabling me to be as free as I am on the Earth, thus, it would be a dysfunctional place - people would revolt.

In closing, God does not exist and there cannot be a heaven. No one would like it. Who wants to be someone's slave? It's better that we just die and go to sleep eternally. When you are sleeping you feel no pain, no sadness, no unhappiness. Time just flies by until you wake up. Subtract the waking up part and that is what death is all about.

Most people wind up in hell (Matthew 7:13-14). You can't base your opinion on if everyone went to Heaven, because it says few (Probably still in the millions/billions area, but Hell would outnumber it by a lot) actually go to Heaven

People that are addicted to porn, sex (In some cases), and/or drugs when they die probably won't go to Heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9)

It would be considered retrictions for the people that end up in Heaven, it would be "Now I can live eternity with ever doing those things again, along with peace.". They aren't slaves because they willingly do it.

In other words:

The people that think of Heaven (A place of eternal peace), resticting won't go there in the first place, because they want to live in a sinful lifestyle.

Ok, I'll play along with your line of reasoning...

I'm not addicted to anything.  It would be nice to be able to have some fun in heaven.  For instance,  no porn - let me watch the Victoria Secret fashion show.  No drugs - let me smoke a cigar.  No booze either - gimme a Sharp's then.  No sex with strangers - let me bang my girlfriend/ wife.  Now, am I still a sinner?

Furthur, everybody sins at least a little throughout their lives.  That's what confession is for - to be absolved of your sins.   That's what last rites are also for.  Are you telling me those two key tenets, of at least Catholicism, are not valid? 

My primary point is that you cannot have free will in heaven,  and thus, without free will you are someone's slave, to put it bluntly.