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solidpumar on 14 August 2014
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Radej said:

There is a 15-18 point gap between white and black Americans on IQ tests, with white Americans averaging around 103 and black Americans around 85, and sub-Saharan Africans average in the mid 60's. While IQ isn't perfect, it is the single best test for predicting future success in life, through education rates, incarceration, income levels, exc exc.

How terrible the United States compares with the rest of the world in education is cited constantly, it's actually black Americans that bring our scores down. The international test is called PISA, the Program for International Student Assessment, and it's broken down by race. White Americans are behind Shanghai, Hong-Kong, Korea, Finland, and Asian Americans, while Black Americans are ranked 50th, behind Serbia. It's a fact that there is a pretty substantial achievement gap between white and black Americans in education, and every single intelligence test has demonstrated that gap, the only question is what causes it. Most people on here will blame poverty, but that flies out the window when you compare white and black children from similar household income levels. White children coming from families making less then 20,000 dollars per year do BETTER on the SAT then black children coming from families making 70,000+ per year, and that same result happens with graduate level tests aswell.

It's naive to think genetics don't play some level in intelligence. You cannot possible believe in evolution and then think that a species separated by tens of thousands of years across tens of thousands of miles throughout every single climate on earth won't develop evolutionary differences to suit those environments, There is a tribe, one single tribe in Kenya caled the Kalenjin, that produces the best runners in the world.

"There are 17 American men in history who have run under 2:10 in the marathon," Epstein says. "There were 32 Kalenjin who did it in October of 2011."

Something about their bone structure, their muscles, their brains, whatever, they are better runners then everyone else in the world. Some groups are predisposed to certain illnesses, there are very clearly differences between eye, hair, and skin color, and bone structure of different racial groups, because of different genetics. There are ABSOLUTELY brilliant black people in this world, but Why is it such a stretch to say a group is predisposed to lower or higher levels of intelligence?

Black Americans were preselected individuals. They were individuals that were sold from African tribes to the slave traders, had to survive bad conditions on the trip, and their offspring had to survive centuries as slaves. Clearly the natural selection forces for Black americans were diffent than for Black Africans or any other ethiny that didn't suffered from preselection which happens in slavery. So even between Black Americans and Black Africans there is a Huge diference on DNA.

Income doesn't tell the whole story though, the family background of the whites in american come historically from more educated background, and educated parents educate better the childreen than uneducated parents regardless if their income is the same as other families.

 

Oh, and to all:

How do we know reggin_bolas is not the real racist, and creating a imaginary racist is the way for him to spread his racists arguments across on a site where this would be quickly banned otherwise?

edit: we just need to spell his name backwards to know as guy above pointed out.