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Nintentacle on 14 August 2014
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Soriku said:
Nintentacle said:

1. That still doesn't mean, if a God existed, he couldn't change people's speeches. Put it this way; Let's say there is a God. What would stop him from being able to change the way people speak?

2. Anyone who doesn't come to Christ won't even do God's will in the first place. For people that do come to him, God will tell them his will.

3. You should stop repeating it, I've already told you that that isn't how it works. Look at the definition of free will: "The power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act on one's own discretion.". Going by that, it means that free will does not always involve sin. For example, one person can be unsure of what new Chruch they want to, so they reseached 2 of them, and choose the best one. So, could they act on their own discretion? Yes. In Heaven, the people that are there are not going to have the temptation to sin, because, the only reason Satan tempts you is so you can go to Hell, so it would be irrelevent to tempt someone in Heaven, not to mention that he was kicked out of Heaven. But, there is still free will, because you can make choices (Not as important, clearly. But nevertheless they are still making choices) based on your own discretion.

1. There's nothing to stop an omnipotent god from doing this, but going by this reasoning then anything is possible. Maybe god made 2+2=5 but we just don't realize it yet. Maybe the grass is purple but god changed our perception. Maybe all our memories up to this point are fake and god implanted new memories into our heads 5 minutes ago. Maybe god also recreated the universe 5 seconds ago, but we don't know this. Maybe...

Seriously, unless you can back up this claim with some evidence, then it's dismissable and shouldn't be entertained at all. Linguistics is consistent and we know languages descended from other languages over time. It doesn't matter that scriptures say otherwise.

2. Yes, god will tell you, if you have schizophrenia and/or are epileptic. Because I'm pretty sure you can't speak to fictional beings otherwise. Mind you, this also applies to every other god out there; the Christian god isn't any more credible than other gods, so your claim that god will show you the way if you believe in him doesn't mean anything without evidence as well. And this is the issue with faith...Iy

3. Regarding free will, you just moved the goalposts. This was your exact post:

God lets evil happen because he gave humans free will. Not letting them do evil means they won't have any free will. Evil effects other people, thus bad things can happen to good people.

You said it rather plainly that not letting humans do evil means we won't have any free will. Good and evil are two sides of the same coin (although there's a lot of in-between); if only good is possible then we're missing something. You have the will to do good, but not free will as you describe. If you're only able to do specifically good actions in heaven, and nothing else, then your actions are limited. Free to do good is not the same as total free will, where you're able to do any action. That said, there's debate in the scientific community on whether we have free will at all, but I won't say much more on that.

1. It still does not prove that there wasn't a point in time where there wasn't one language, unless you can find any document of sorts.

2. It isn't the issue of faith. It's just that you don't believe in it, so you say those people have mental disorders. That doesn't provide any evidence on your side, it just reinstates your opinion.

3. You can still, technically, do ev il in Heaven, but anyone that would do evil (I.E.: Someone who isn't saved) isn't allowed in Heaven in the first place. And, like I said before, you can't be tempted in Heaven. So, basically, the wicked people that would do evil, despite not having the tempation (Along with people who still live in their sin/haven't been forgiven for their sins at the time of their death as well) won't be in Heaven.

If you didn't understand that, what I mean is that you misunderstood the context behind "Not letting them do evil means they don't have free will." because I worded it wrong. What I meant was "It is technically possible to do evil anywhere, but there is no evil in Heaven because no one there would do evil.".