The Religious Argument Thread!

[Nintentacle]

Soriku said:

Nintentacle said:

These two still don't make sense to me.

1. Occam's Razor only suggest that the most likely possibility is correct. Saying it contradicts the story can't be correct, because you are saying It's the most likely answer. I can understand if you're suggesting that you think that God not existing is the most likely answer.

2. First of all, he'll only save you if you come to Jesus. Secondly, just because God has a plan for you, that doesn't mean you have to do his will. You get the choice whether to do it or not. And lastly, in Heaven, there are no Demons/Satan in Heaven to tempt you to sin, therefore there is no sin.

1. The idea is that we already have a natural explanation for the construction of languages, so there's not much reason to include the supernatural in this. It's superfluous.

2. You can't possibly know god's plan for you if he doesn't reveal it to you, and chances are that in your entire life that you can't be following this plan to a T unless he's directly guiding you (which involves interfering with free will). So what's the point to a plan at all?

If there is no sin in heaven, there is no free will...

1. It still doesn't disprove the story itself, though. The only way you can do that is to prove that God is not all-powerful.

2. You're still making the choice to do his will. At any time, you can just stop.

As for the no sin in Heaven thing, that makes absolutely no sense. How could anybody in Heaven possibly have the temptation to sin after God has judged you? They can still make a choice on what they want to do or not (E.G. "Should I eat this fruit or the other...?" without the temptation to sin.