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BillyBong said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

Hard to join a conversation using the same logic as the previous person, yes?

2) That goes for any port.

3) No we didn't. Most games on the PS4 are either 790p, 800p or 900p.

4) No one said this. Pay attention.

5) That's your opinion. However, last I checked, Dota2 and LoL are the most popular esports games in the video game industry - both being PC exclusives.

here's a quote I posted in a thread back in July..

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

other than a few games (WD, UFC, & BF) everything on ps4 is basically 1080p/60/30.  Whereas WD is 900p/30fps for ps4.. it's 720p/30fps on x1.  BF is 900p/60fps on ps4 and 720p/60fps on x1. 

As for current & upcoming titles:

Ps4 currently has 31 titles targeted at/or @ 1080p/60fps and 10 titles @ 1080p/30fps.

x1 currently has 12 titles targeted at/or @ 1080/60fps, 7 titles @ 1080/30fps, and 16 titles equal or less than 900p/60/30...

so yea.. you can say the ps4 has more/will have more of the 1080p/60 experience... at least 70% of the games are @ 1080p/60.  x1 is @ 31%.  93% of ps4 games are @ 1080p/60/30.  x1 is @ 50%

ps4 1080p/60/30 experience > x1 1080p/60/30 experience..

93% of games on ps4 is 1080p.. now i definitely know what you are..

The problem with your list is that:

1) A lot of those games haven't come out yet and are "projected" to be 60 fps. That could mean anything, really.

2) There are a few indie titles in there (including one that's on the Wii U - yet its marked exclusive even though it was on the Wii U first... Odd)

3) Many of those games run "up to" 60 fps. For example, Murdered: Soul Suspect runs up to 60, but often times drops to 30 fps (especially in cut scenes). Another example is Killzone, which was found out to not run at 1080p at all. And yet another example with Tomb Raider. Look. Unlocked FPS doesn't automatically mean 60 fps. And yet another example would be Thief. That game dips to the single digits. The game is downright unplayable on the PS4. Heck, DigitalFoundry found the Xbone version to be superior because it has a smoother frame rate. Sacrificing resolution for frame rate is always a bad idea. A lot of PS4 games do that just to say they're 1080p. This isn't what next gen looks like.

Serious, if this is your idea of next-gen, then you'll be surprised once you start gaming on a PC. Heck, on my PC, Tomb Raider (with the fps unlocked) jumps up to to over 100 fps.