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Puppyroach said:
BeElite said:
Puppyroach said:
I sure hope more companies offer similar things on X1. MS won't loose gold members since you still need it. But I would gladly pay 5$ for a Ubisoft vault as well, or maybe a Capcom one, or Sega.... yeah Sony, this IS good value for gamers.

no its not and you just proved it, how many subs this gen will i need then.

You do know that noone demands that you sub, right?


Right but this is what sony did with PS+. "Optional", free online, bonus games/discounts etc. Now it is needed for online play after they build up the userbase and people were committted to the service. If you think this is simply EA offering "choice" I have a bridge to sell you. It is the beginning of what the online pass was intended to do just masked as value, the same as PS+ was always the foot in the door to charge for online play and then once people got the taste of the free games and discounts start throwing on necessary things tied to the service. You think its coincidence that PS+ started with nothing but perks and this gen Sony's entire marketing is built around social gaming and now PS+ is required for online play?

If this becomes the precedent for third party companies youre looking at Gold/PS+ plus each companies "vault" to access online servers or worse. The same as Sony offered a nice bonus VIP package, get people into the ecosystem, committed, then start slapping on tiny bits of required cost so they cant get out if they want to keep gaming how they always have.