Diff between PS4/XB1 > PS3/360

[Shinobi-san]

starcraft said:

Shinobi-san said:

starcraft said:

VanceIX said:

Last gen the PS3 was a lot more powerful, just harder to optomize for than the 360.

This gen, the PS4 and One use the exact same architecture and the PS4 only has marginally better components. As devs get better at optimizing for x86 on the consoles, games will probably look much more similar either way.

Heck, the One has the best looking game currently (Ryse), and even with lower pixel counts the games look almost identical in real life.

I'd say that was about the end of the thread folks.

you do realise everything he said is factually incorrect right? As a moderator surely...?

Fine, I'll bite. What do you claim was a 'factual error?'

Bearing in mind you've just invoked facts, meaning provable beyond all doubt.

I'm not baiting you. So im not sure about the whole bite comment. Thats unnecessary..again coming from a MOD.

"PS3 was a lot more powerful" Theres really no real world evidence of this. There isnt vast differences between IQ, effects, player count, AI, polygon counts etc. between the PS3's best and the 360's best. Im very certain that all the top PS3 games can be ported to 360 with minimal, if any comprimises (in certain areas like AA it will be stronger) and vice versa. Looking at the actual hardware achitectures of the PS3 and 360 its very difficult to compare, they are different architectures, different memmory setups...just about everything is different. So comparing theoretical performance, in this instance is silly, especially considering that both platforms are mature and devs have had multiple years to take full advantage of the hardware...so we are well aware of whats capable in real world performance. So that statement is indeed factually incorrect. I have not come across a single tech site or tech savvy person who has claimed otherwise except VancelX..who doesnt seem to know tech.

"marginally better components" The PS4 has a total system theoretical performance of ~1.8tfls. X1 is sitting at ~1.3tfls. Thats quite a big difference. And that difference is down almost entirely to the GPU. Effectively the PS4 has 6 more GCN cores in it. Id love to see anyone argue that that is a marginally better component. In real life these two GPU's are in two completely different brackets and are at two different pricepoints. The PS4 also has a much better RAM setup...8gb of GDDR5 ram vs 8gb of DDR3 ram plus esram.I wouldnt call this a better component but better setup, which devs in general, prefer to work with (one pool of ram vs. a split pool of ram). So gain thats an incorrect statement to make.

The other things he said were opinion...so that is fine.

Either way i still think it was unbecomming of a moderator to add the "that ends the thread" comment to a post of that nature. To actively encourage misinformation is the worst thing ive seen a mod do. Did you even research the claim he was making? Do you even know about the topic at hand? Or are you equally misinformed and were led to believe the wrong things?