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OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

And I stand by the fact XB1 will outsell WiiU in sales globally by the end of the year, easily, due to multiplats, XB1 having a target audience, and WiiU not having as much appeal, that's my stance, I stick by it, and I don't need to change the goal posts to defend it.

I am talking about the other stuff as an aside.

As far as the last one goes, there is no such thing as stuffing. There is such a thing as retailers over ordering, but MS can't force stock into the channel if retailers don't want it. Now, it's seemingly true retailers have too much stock the past 6 months, which means there isn't going to be more overshipping due to this current Q, retailers wouldn't accept more stock when they already have enough.

Regardless, like I said that's an aside, I'm not crazy enough to think XB1 will be close to outselling WiiU by end of September, it'll happen during the holiday.

I'm just using the shipping thing as my first benchmark to my prediction, don't call it changing goals.

This sounds like your assuming wii u cant fight back with one of its biggest games

If MK on WiiU (Wii's arguably biggest ever game) can only push console sales a few hundred k WW, then no, it can't. I don't think most people here grasp that a bump, or 'doubling your baseline' in this situation still doesn't lead to good sales for WiiU.

MK on WiiU has amounted to 200k@ hardware sold across May and June in US. Know what MGS4 on PS3 did? A region not exactly on board with the console at that point. 631k. More than MK has pushed WIiU WW. If you want to talk WW then the same applies to those games.

Know what Halo 3 did in US in September 2007? 530k, so close to 1m WW for the month of September.

That is a boost, and that is something after numerous games released, WiiU has failed to do.