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Viper1 said:
Seece said:

Cheaper Xbox has been ineffective (partially, it still raised sales in US to 200k. Because Titanfall for $399 ruined the value proposition, MS shot themselves in the foot. When more $399 bundles come along like the Madden and Sunset ones, they will be more appealing.

Yes I'm ignoring VGC figures (for now). What is and isn't dry for WiiU? MK is still clearly having an effect on sales.

How does one bundle at $399 (with Kinect) ruin the value proposition over other bundles at $399 (without Kinect)?

So you're saying a game that maintains sales, regardless of how long, rebukes a dry period of no releases?  Consider that real quick.   A single game has pushed Wii U to Xbox One levels (even in the wake of a pricecut, big game and Kinect removal) and there are more big games coming.   On top of the normal holiday gift giving boost that Nintendo typically receives during the holiday.   And yet you still claim the Xbox One will erase a nearly 2 million sales deficit by the end of the year?

Oh, and didn't Sniper Elite 3 launch a few weeks ago?   That's more than the Wii U has received since Mario Kart 8.  So the Xbox One has had less of a drought than Wii U has and Wii U is still selling better at the moment.

Because a Kinectless $399 XB1 looks crap compared to a $399 kinect bundle with Titanfall. It's like a step backwards almost, should have been $350 (part of me thinks it will be this holiday).

This is a myth. Didn't get it in 2012 and didn't get it in 2013 either. The Wii and DS got big boosts during the holiday, but they were huge in the year too.


Pit sales for WiiU vs XB1 in the countries they sell in, and WiiU isn't selling better than XB1.