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DarkD said:
DonFerrari said:

What are you talking about??? Latest report Sony shipped 10M PS4 up to June 30th, about 500k above Wii on the same timeframe... so I really don't get your point.

But why did you ignore the part about the DRM? You decided to read the links you posted maybe?? It is pretty clear that MS reveal gave them marketing Ideas, not that they decided to take DRM because of it. Just in case you decide to ignore I put a link for you.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/It-Official-Again-PS4-Has-DRM-Fees-Internet-Registration-Check-56594.html


Sony stockpiled and frontloaded the launch.  So the first few weeks they had really bloated numbers.  They led the Wii because of that, but in recent months that has died down significantly.  Or are you denying the sales numbers on this website?  Wii consistently sold something like 150 000 to 200 000 all through their first year.  Sony started high but has dropped down significantly since.  

I ignored the DRM point because it's argumentative.  Nothing to prove either side.  I think what I posted was pretty damning, you think its not...  What's more to argue?  I would be here all day if I kept batting a dead animal like that.  

So Sony sold 10M in June 30th because they stockpiled the launch (and were sold out up to May), and still is in some places? Yes sure... And I deny the numbers in this site since they are completely off since the beggining of the gen, PS4 is about 300-500k undertracked here. And to you if a console doesn't sell as good as Wii it fumbles, so if it sells bellow GC what is it doing?

I read your links, did you? Where does it prove or at least put a good argument on the issue? I sent you a different one that is a lot more direct and answer you. But if you want to ignore it so you can say you are right no problem to me... for you Sony can't be right and wouldn't be a good bet for customer because "they won't return your investiment"...

Tell me how MS and Nintendo returned your investment in their last 2 years of X360 and Wii.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."