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DonFerrari said:

I made a thread because a journalist put an article defending that the WiiU rise in sells were more because lost interest in PS4/X1 than for Mk8 and Nintendo, conclusion of the thread.. the writer was completly wrong, Mk8 was the biggest reason.. yet you started saying it was because of sony/ms fumble then say it is obvious it was because of MK8 and other things just helped... how much are you going to change your point and still be wrong?

Even if I fully explained everything, I would just get 5 people responding saying TL;DR then cherry picking some minor parts that they didn't like.  Then I would have to explain the whole thing over again anyways.  I'm already re-explaining the obvious for you as it is....  Why do I need a bigger headache.  I don't know if you've noticed, but people don't really look at the big picture on this site.