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DarkD said:
DonFerrari said:
DarkD said:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/DRM-Xbox-One-PlayStation-4-Shuhei-Yoshida-Hiroshi-Kawano,23292.html

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/26/4465674/sce-japan-heads-discuss-the-ps4-e3-and-the-near-future

Uhh is that tomshardware is pretty reliable right?  Obviously I can't link to famitsu and find the original quote from Shuhei Yoshida, but that sounds pretty damning.  

Sony and Microsoft aren't anywhere close to where they should be sales wise.  The winning console should be sold out pretty much for the whole of the first year.  That's just basic history for games consoles.  


I don't know tomshardware but if it was part of interview that exist it should be linked there. Anyway they didn't say they took out the DRM because of MS fumble, just that they saw how much the comunity cared about it. Meaning, they saw the opportunity for a jab.

So PS4 being the fastest selling console ever up to now (around 10M shipped as of June 30th) is a fumble that allowed WiiU to recover? fuck logic.


OMG you're bringing up that broken point again...  I made a thread about that "fastest selling console ever" BS and it was pretty much conclusive that it's a BS title.  If a console is going to be in first place, then its guaranteed that they will sell out on launch day...  Is this news to you?  Because on launch day every store has lineups of 100 people waiting for a console, and only 10 of them usually end up with a console.  The only thing Sony did was stockpile their system for longer before launch....  

The logic is that there's more than one reason for a console to recover.  If all you attributed the recovery with is one great game, then you don't know anything about business.  These things work from a variety of angles.  Mario Kart triggered it, and MS and Sony carried it, and probably a half dozen other smaller reasons helped it.  I'm actually shocked you made a thread about the most obvious part of the whole recovery...


I made a thread because a journalist put an article defending that the WiiU rise in sells were more because lost interest in PS4/X1 than for Mk8 and Nintendo, conclusion of the thread.. the writer was completly wrong, Mk8 was the biggest reason.. yet you started saying it was because of sony/ms fumble then say it is obvious it was because of MK8 and other things just helped... how much are you going to change your point and still be wrong?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."