DonFerrari said:
DarkD said:
DonFerrari said:
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Yes Mario Kart 8 was the thing that triggered it, but it wouldn't be holding if Sony and Microsoft weren't fumbling the ball.
Yes I agree that Microsoft tried to screw us over with DRM, however I'm not convinced that Sony wasn't planning to as well. There's a lot of people who have said that Sony was initially going to put DRM in their console, but pulled out at the last second after seeing Microsoft's reaction. There's only third party quotes on that, so evidence doesn't really exist, however I seriously doubt Sony is innocent in this.
As far as Kinect goes, Sony is just as guilty as Microsoft, the only difference is that Sony "Move" was a straight up copy of the Wii remote so no one bought it. I would hardly say that Microsoft was any greater of a villian than Sony in those instances.
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If it is because of Sony and Ms fumbles why have they also got a risen in their sales?
We had unthrustyworthy rumours throw after MS got exposed, I wouldn't put any weigth on it. On the february reveal they already had said "DRM is up to the publisher" when asked about DRM pratices... and we got the proof that it was baseless rumour when MS had to put a day one patch for it but you could play your PS4 without a day 1 patch. And in any law system you are innocent until proven otherwise so I can't think of a reason for you to try and frame Sony besides not liking them, and your posts here prove that.
I haven't said anything about Kinect. But Move is as much a copy of WiiMote as Kinect is from Eyetoy. Not that it is important.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/DRM-Xbox-One-PlayStation-4-Shuhei-Yoshida-Hiroshi-Kawano,23292.html
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/26/4465674/sce-japan-heads-discuss-the-ps4-e3-and-the-near-future
Uhh is that tomshardware is pretty reliable right? Obviously I can't link to famitsu and find the original quote from Shuhei Yoshida, but that sounds pretty damning.
Sony and Microsoft aren't anywhere close to where they should be sales wise. The winning console should be sold out pretty much for the whole of the first year. That's just basic history for games consoles.
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I don't know tomshardware but if it was part of interview that exist it should be linked there. Anyway they didn't say they took out the DRM because of MS fumble, just that they saw how much the comunity cared about it. Meaning, they saw the opportunity for a jab.
So PS4 being the fastest selling console ever up to now (around 10M shipped as of June 30th) is a fumble that allowed WiiU to recover? fuck logic.
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OMG you're bringing up that broken point again... I made a thread about that "fastest selling console ever" BS and it was pretty much conclusive that it's a BS title. If a console is going to be in first place, then its guaranteed that they will sell out on launch day... Is this news to you? Because on launch day every store has lineups of 100 people waiting for a console, and only 10 of them usually end up with a console. The only thing Sony did was stockpile their system for longer before launch....
The logic is that there's more than one reason for a console to recover. If all you attributed the recovery with is one great game, then you don't know anything about business. These things work from a variety of angles. Mario Kart triggered it, and MS and Sony carried it, and probably a half dozen other smaller reasons helped it. I'm actually shocked you made a thread about the most obvious part of the whole recovery...
