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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
DarkD said:

Yes Mario Kart 8 was the thing that triggered it, but it wouldn't be holding if Sony and Microsoft weren't fumbling the ball.  

Yes I agree that Microsoft tried to screw us over with DRM, however I'm not convinced that Sony wasn't planning to as well.  There's a lot of people who have said that Sony was initially going to put DRM in their console, but pulled out at the last second after seeing the reaction Microsoft got from it.  There's only third party quotes on that, so evidence doesn't really exist, however I seriously doubt Sony is innocent in this.  

As far as Kinect goes, Sony is just as guilty as Microsoft, the only difference is that Sony "Move" was a straight up copy of the Wii remote so no one bought it.  I would hardly say that Microsoft was any greater of a villian than Sony in those instances.  

Get your story straight. You are the one that said that Nintendo would fumble out of the gate regardless. But they had an entire year to not fix the problem, by themselves as the only 8 gen console. That's can only be Nintendo's fault.

As for the immature copying thing, fyi there is no such thing as copy, its a common practice in electronics and buisness to apply the succesful techniques of your competitors, if we entertain this childish notion, the Move was for the PS3, they didn't make it mandatory for the PS4 so its nothing like what MS did with the Kinect 2.0.

And this whole Villian thing, is completely ludicrous. These are entertainment companies, specifically PS, Xbox, and Nintendo, not Sony or MS technically. In terms of morality, the extent to which they go is anti-consumer, which suxs but isn't as "evil" as other things consider so. Also these practices are universal to all of the Big 3, if you want to be impartial then you recognize that its all buisness, but if you want to ally yourself to companies that don't even know you exist, by all means go ahead. Just don't drag the rest of us with you on the trip down.

With your first point...  I think you need to reread some stuff because you should be able to answer that yourself...

I wasn't villifying anyone, you guys have been doing that to Microsoft all by yourself.  I was the one explaining why all three are equally evil.  If anything you just attacked your side with that one.