DonFerrari said:
DarkD said:
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thx I have my answer... you don't have any idea what you are talking about... Sony in life support put more exclusives, get more third support, dev a stronger system with cheaper price/flop, than others. but your answer is that we should instead support the company that wanted to rip us, and that nintendo flopped because it got sucessfull the last gen... So maybe that is the brilliant conclusion why PS3 flopped, people hated it because PS2 was sucessfull... and I already posted a thread on why WiiU got a rise in sales and it was a consensus that it have to do with MK8 getting attention not ps4/x1 flumbing (as both also got increased sales when WiiU rose).
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Yes Mario Kart 8 was the thing that triggered it, but it wouldn't be holding if Sony and Microsoft weren't fumbling the ball.
Yes I agree that Microsoft tried to screw us over with DRM, however I'm not convinced that Sony wasn't planning to as well. There's a lot of people who have said that Sony was initially going to put DRM in their console, but pulled out at the last second after seeing Microsoft's reaction. There's only third party quotes on that, so evidence doesn't really exist, however I seriously doubt Sony is innocent in this.
As far as Kinect goes, Sony is just as guilty as Microsoft, the only difference is that Sony "Move" was a straight up copy of the Wii remote so no one bought it. I would hardly say that Microsoft was any greater of a villian than Sony in those instances.
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If it is because of Sony and Ms fumbles why have they also got a risen in their sales?
We had unthrustyworthy rumours throw after MS got exposed, I wouldn't put any weigth on it. On the february reveal they already had said "DRM is up to the publisher" when asked about DRM pratices... and we got the proof that it was baseless rumour when MS had to put a day one patch for it but you could play your PS4 without a day 1 patch. And in any law system you are innocent until proven otherwise so I can't think of a reason for you to try and frame Sony besides not liking them, and your posts here prove that.
I haven't said anything about Kinect. But Move is as much a copy of WiiMote as Kinect is from Eyetoy. Not that it is important.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/DRM-Xbox-One-PlayStation-4-Shuhei-Yoshida-Hiroshi-Kawano,23292.html
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/26/4465674/sce-japan-heads-discuss-the-ps4-e3-and-the-near-future
Uhh is that tomshardware is pretty reliable right? Obviously I can't link to famitsu and find the original quote from Shuhei Yoshida, but that sounds pretty damning.
Sony and Microsoft aren't anywhere close to where they should be sales wise. The winning console should be sold out pretty much for the whole of the first year. That's just basic history for games consoles.
