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1. Racism, slavery, rape, and war are good things to you.

2. Or you have not read the bible." -DuncanMcNeil

And all of sudden all Athiest have perfect morals and all Christians are beneath you and your atheism. Perfect way to prove your point.

1. What?

2. What?

If you read the bible from beginning to end, you'll understand. God tells people to wage war quite a few times, there's quite a nasty passage in numbers. Don't respond to what I say without reading what I have said fully and going to the parts in the bible that I'm talking about. No kings have lived for 200 years. Thus "the crusades" could not have been caused by a king's need to free people. The Crusades were holy wars. I know quite a bit about history.

1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 2 Revenge first the children of Israel on the Madianites, and so thou shalt be gathered to thy people. 3 And Moses forthwith said: Arm of you men to fight, who may take the revenge of the Lord on the Madianites...14 And Moses being angry with the chief officers of the army, the tribunes, and the centurions that were come from the battle, 15 Said: Why have you saved the women? 16 Are not these they, that deceived the children of Israel by the counsel of Balaam, and made you transgress against the Lord by the sin of Phogor, for which also the people was punished? 17 Therefore kill all that are of the male sex, even of the children: and put to death the women, that have carnally known men. 18 But the girls, and all the women that are virgins save for yourselves

 

Let me tell you the reason why prisoners can be saved is because it is not about keeping the 10 Commandments anymore but it is about having faith in Christ.  The Bible says, “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23” and in 24 to 25 it goes on to say that humankind can only be justified by Christ. So this means, that the people that you don’t like; my “hateful and evil” God, loves.  So much that he sent his Son for them. He also sent his Son for the people that have sinned less.  Now tell me if my brother killed a man and I continued to support and love him does that make me a murderer too? Should we be judged by the people we love and hang-out with?

If you helped someone murder people, yes that makes you a murderer. God did not send his son for everyone, he only sent his son for the people of Israel. Jesus makes sure he points this out.

 I still don’t see where you get this from. Be careful with calling someone else intolerant, because you have basically said over the coarse or 2 posts, that the problem with the world = Christians. And that sounds a bit intolerant to me. More over didn’t I tell you that God loves the prisoners… even murderers and rapist? On what basis do you hate them? In your view if a man dies that is all he has. So shouldn’t you be a little more tolerant with a man that made a mistake in the one life he has to live? Or would you rather he suffers for all the days you believes that he has in existence? The way I see it, God (real or not) is WAY more forgiving than you are.

That's funny the 10 commandments are still around, I think all christians use them. You're not really thinking about religion and the effects of it. I have studied the bible and history for quite some time now, I think I can call people intolerant. I don't think you've read the bible. Like, the whole thing. If you did you'd see what I mean. If a man kills someone that is a mistake? God is not forgiving at all. A christian believes that (even) a child who dies right now without being baptized (with magic water) will go to hell (a place that is in another universe I suppose).

This is obvious:

Where does the Bible say that Rape is good? Or war or slavery? God acknowledges its existence but where does he say these are good things? 

1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 2 Revenge first the children of Israel on the Madianites, and so thou shalt be gathered to thy people. 3 And Moses forthwith said: Arm of you men to fight, who may take the revenge of the Lord on the Madianites...14 And Moses being angry with the chief officers of the army, the tribunes, and the centurions that were come from the battle, 15 Said: Why have you saved the women? 16 Are not these they, that deceived the children of Israel by the counsel of Balaam, and made you transgress against the Lord by the sin of Phogor, for which also the people was punished? 17 Therefore kill all that are of the male sex, even of the children: and put to death the women, that have carnally known men. 18 But the girls, and all the women that are virgins save for yourselves

Rape, war, and racism. These things are in the bible. Someone who has read the bible knows just about every passage there is. Rape, war, and racism are common things in the bible.

The Bible says, “No Man is good” so how can getting into heaven be about doing good deeds?

The bible advocates doing evil deeds. This is different from saying that you can get into heaven without being a good person. You have to do bad things in order to get into heaven.

 

Compromises your objectivity? (I assume you meant it to be written like this)

So what you're saying is, if I were a christian the fact that I should stone people to death, keep slaves for 7 years(and their family) wouldn't bother me. I have to believe in god then I'll realize these things aren't so bad.

 Forget it. I can't really debate something with christians when they haven't even read their own book, and need to quote things from the bible at all. You'd think someone would want to read the words that are from a GOD. I was interested without even believing in god. Now I'm a theologian among other things. All of you talk about Jesus, but Apollonius was identical. You completely ignore everything I say, dismissing it because it disagrees with what you were taught about a book. Unfortunately childhood indoctrination got to you before reason did.

 

PS

"Again, you're better than that. Really." This is such an annoying phrease, please stop saying it, I don't even know what it means, it's about as intelligible as "souls" or "sin." Have all the belief you want in fairies, ghosts, and men who live in the sky, don't include others in it. I'm not part of your mythology.

And this statement is ironic. "Obviously you need to read alot a more." At least you haven't tried to use retard as a noun. That's always a good one.

This is either one big joke or you're dense.