It's time to accept it, PS4 has won the US this gen

[bigjon]

walsufnir said:

bigjon said:

starcraft said:

Entirely unnecessary.

You're asserting that such an outcome is impossible. Some would argue that it is likely, others that it is unlikely. Very few that it is impossible!

1. Um, Sony did just about everything wrong last gen and still beat 360 WW. I cant name one thing that XB1 can CLEARLY sell as a reason to get one over the PS4, unless Halo it just your thing.

2. Last gen 360 had Better online (Wash now), Better quality multiplats (PS4), Cheaper price (wash), easier to develop for (PS4), and at the beggining of the gen the biggest FPS game in Halo (which CoD took a few years into the gen).

All PS3 had going for it was a wider selection of exclusives (better is subjective), more reliable hardware (no one is going argue that), free online(but inferior), and Blue Ray (which saved it possibly in the early days)

1. But that is only your opinion. You could argue about the controller or the exclusives, for example. The problem that YOU don't see any reason doesn't mean nobody does and obviously there are still a lot of people who still buy an Xbone, although you don't seem to understand them. And they are doing it although there is no Halo released on the system. Irritating?

And "beating"? Yes, they will somewhen have sold more than 360 but I wouldn't call it a "win" when numbers are so close.

2.  Better online wash now? I think the experience is quite different between countries and usergroups and personal preference. Overall, I hear a lot of arguments repeated over and over again, making it sound rational, yet Wii, a system without hd, without great graphics, no real online experience, many Mario games, without Bluray, outsold every other competitor easily.

you really just went there. Please do not compare the Wii to anything happening this Gen. That console caught lightning in a bottle, the current consoles are all selling based on traditional patterns (Power, Price, Games)

Its my opinion yes, but I did not say EVERYTHING on PS4 was better, I said the XB1 does not have ONE thing that it bank on right now as something that is universally (or even close to it) better than PS4. My whole point is that the only things people my like better on XB1 are based on preference (controllers being a great example or even online interface style).

You did the whole "you can't view the world through the lense of your own perspective and then extrapolate it" line on me. But, if it is true that am biased or whatever please name THOSE things that the XB1 can bank on to sell, or do we have to break out the chalkboard. If it had ONE of those things currently it would not be in the situation it is in.