This is for those who care about "Next Gen" console graphics

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amak11 said:

I have a background in marketing, i'm not in marketing(huge difference). I do know the concept of false advertising and in fact these numbers are not misleading at all. It still paints the correct image of the console capabilities. My suggestion is to go back and re-read what I wrote. I even had siad they aren't representative of the actual consoles. This whole conversation is about misinformation is your fault for not understanding something simple. I wouldn't say something that I haven't tested out in real life. I've probably sold more PS4s cause of it and I don't even work for retailers. Logic and truth does not exist in marketing, this is fact. Sony, MS, and Nintendo have all lied to all of us. Sony bolsters that 1080p 60fps claim for most of it's games yet most are 900p 60fps or 1080i 30fps. MS promised change and Nintendo promised third party. Marketing exist to throw people like you off of what these consoles will actually do. 

If you want to sit here and argue specs go ahead becuase I have done my research right up to the NDAs which prevent me from seeing more. The specs that Digital foundry gave out are under NDA aswell. They were only allowed to reviel certain information. If they revieled more they could be sued by Nintendo for breaking NDA. Hackers are the least trustworthy source for information because it's almost always skewed by their own bias. Devs are under NDA, they can only say what they think it's close to. 

"My suggestion is to go back and re-read what I wrote...."

*goes back*

"....All my explination was suppose to be, was a simple explination of power differences in the consoles."

*goes back further*

 - "they're much closer to WiiU than you think". Stopped reading right there.

 - Explain how thats not true?

 - "As a Wii U hopeful, the Xbox One is closer to the Wii U, the PS4 is a cut above the Xbox One. "

Every part in the XBox is near identical to PS4 minus its GPU, how can that statement NOT be misleading? In terms of flops 1300 is much closer to 1800 than it is 350. Those GPUs are from the exact same architecture (7000/GCN) while the Wii U must be (5000-6000 era at best). Even if you doubled the Wii U numbers for the sake of secret sauce theories the XBox would still be closer to the PS4. 

"I do know the concept of false advertising and in fact these numbers are not misleading at all." followed by "I even had said they aren't representative of the actual consoles" Then WHY are you using them to " be a simple explination of power differences in the consoles" ?

"It still paints the correct image of the console capabilities. " No it doesn't

"Logic and truth does not exist in marketing, this is fact" the specifications in the XBox and PS4 are Confirmed, numbers dont lie .

"Marketing exist to throw people like you off of what these consoles will actually do" Dont trust Benchmarks, or Teardowns, or Digital Foundry, or my own experience (5670 HD -> Wii U -> 7870 HD). Trust people who read NDAs but cant reveal any details. Got it.

"Sony bolsters that 1080p 60fps claim for most of it's games yet most are 900p 60fps or 1080i 30fps" Where? Show me any official advertisements or statements with that claim? And Im only aware of TWO 900p games (Watch Dogs and Battlefield 4) on the PS4, where are most of these games?

"The specs that Digital foundry gave out are under NDA aswell. They were only allowed to reviel certain information. If they revieled more they could be sued by Nintendo for breaking NDA." 

They never got any information from Nintendo. Only reported from hacker teardowns and made assumptions off of power usage and AMD GPU generations. Assumptionms that have been fairly accurate for all three 8th gen systems even before they were officially announced.

I dont think the PS4 or XBox One are super powerful or anything but a truly accurate representation of the systems should always be given, nothing taken away or added. I dont think the Wii U is trash but I dont hype it up to be something its not either. On any scale it would always lean closer to the XBox 360 than to the XBox One (Usable RAM, GPU power, CPU cores, CPU threads, Memory Bandwidth).