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archer9234 on 27 July 2014
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Conina said:
archer9234 said:
Conina said:
archer9234 said:
Conina said:

So which playstation model can play *all* the playstation games? Every PS game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Nintendo console can play *all* the Nintendo games? Every Nintendo game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Xbox console can play *all* the Xbox games? Every Xbox game of the 2000's and 2010's?

If you want to have access to *all* games, you need several consoles. The backwards compatibility of PCs is much better than the backwards compatibility of consoles or handhelds... not every old PC game works on a new PC, but most of them. And for the problematic games you could keep an old PC with Windows 98 available... just like the old consoles.

But it's easier to keep your old consoles still, than to deal with a PC. You just need: Model 1 PS3, PS4, An SNES with 3rd party NES game adapter, n64, Wii model 1, Wii U. Sony 2, Nintendo 4. And if you factor in VC stuff. 2 Nintendo consoles.

Not every PS2 game was PS3 compatible, even to the launch-model. Ratchet & Clank 2 didn't ran on my PS3, Ratchet & Clank 3 had massive slowdowns, Jack Bauer and his enemies were invisible in "24 - The Game"... so we are already at 3 PlayStations, if you want to play *all* games... plus 4 Nintendo consoles, plus 3 Xboxes. Yeah, it's much easier to keep 10 consoles than 2 PCs. ;)

And if we factor in VC stuff (where only a fraction of the classics is available), we can also factor in PC emulators, ScummVM, DosBox and VMs.

Sure is easier to keep my consoles. I store them in 2 boxes. My argument is PC will always be complicated to the majority. They don't want to deal with any form of nonsense. They just want things to work. VC on consoles does just work. Emulation on PC doesn't always work right. I can't play Armada and Porche even in Vmware. They just crash. And to get to emulation PC, you need to actually have a lot of things. You ignoring the fact you need to either have kept your OS installtion disc. Or get a ISO. Then install it.

You may also need to tweak the virtual BIOS settings etc. Getting windows 95 to work fully was a nightmare in VMware. So many drivers are not setup automatically. And Dosbox, you gotta know how MS-DOS commands work. Try telling someone you have to mount a second hard drive to spoof the cdrom drive, in order to get certain games to install and play right. Setup the old annoying Soundblaster audio. To configure the emulators resolution you have to edit a config file. Making desktop shortcuts require you to add in a string to the Dos box shortcut. This is extra junk no one wants to do. Granted, some sites have DOSbox setup to run the game. But almost all the time, dosbox itself isn't configured correct. I have wrong audio ports. Because another game is setup different. I do all this because It's fun to fix older games, to me. Not a person who just wants to load up a game and that's it.

Windows games from 1995 - 2000 are problematic on a 64-bit-Windows, nobody is denying that. Many of the popular games of that era were fixed for 64-bit-systems with the re-release on Steam or GOG: System Shock 2, all Tomb Raider games, all Dark Forces / Jedi Knight games, all YDKJ games, all Oddworld games, Thief Gold, Shadow Man, Final Fantasy 7 + 8, The Last Express, Fallout 1 + 2, Larry 7, Gabriel Knight 2 + 3 and many more.

Most MS-DOS games from 1980 - 1996 are no problem, when you buy them at Steam or GOG... these versions are already prepared to run on new Windows systems. Each game from them has its own DOSbox setup, so a wrong installed DOSbox of one game CAN'T influence another game. If you don't have very exotic hardware, these games run instantly as the should... no install.exe and no setup.exe has to be started manually.

And most Windows games from 2001 up to the present are no problem either, with the release of the 64-bit-version of Windows 2000 most game developers included 64-bit-compatibility.

So most PC games of 1980 - 1994, many PC games of 1995 - 2000 and most PC games of 2001 - 2014 work on a new PC... not bad compared to other platforms. 

Yeah, you're right on that. But again my argument is simplicity. Easier to own the game system, buy the game digital or physcaly. And just run it. PC always will have a extra step involved. Steam and origin are a step. While this step is intigrated into the console. You still have to create an account and stuff. But you don't need to install extra stofware. Or look up information on google. Even steam is not fool proof. Take Max Payne 1. Steam never repaired the audio not working bug. Fans did. A Person who is very lazy or doesn't want to deal with PC, will not fix it, and consider it broken. And go buy a console and play. These type of things. Minor or major make people avoid PC's. Look at the steam forums. There's idiots on there wanting refuns. Because the game failed to run on their PC. They don't check hardware requirments. And when a game just doesn't want to work. They go insane on there. Those people are the ones who desert PC for consoles.

People are programed that PC games will have some issue. Weather its DRM, "I need a PC that's $2,000" crap, or some junk is broken. Or they don't like steam or Origin. Just like how Nintendo programed people over the past 15 years to not look at 3rd aprty games. Be honest. What is the first thing that comes to peoples mind when you see a 3rd party game come to Nintendo. You think its nerfed in some fashion. The same is towards PC gaming. This will be very hard, if not impossible to break.