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teigaga on 25 July 2014
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Experimental42 said:
teigaga said:
 

Although many of the releases weren't optimal, they are still big name exclusives (I agree not so much with Pikmin), which contributed to where the system is, the fact that they didn't make a huge impact speaks more on the Wii U more then it does their marketing or appeal. Mario 3D isn't Galaxy but it obviously helped the system a lot last holiday. The key point is look at what the Wii U has needed to simply sell at (or slightly above), Xbox One levels. The Xbox is competing against it on cross gen titles and hardware power alone.

Of the awaiting titles that you've listed Metroid is fantasy at the moment (also not a huge seller-sells at Pikmin levels), Star fox is looking like 2016 (also not a huge seller), amiibo is completely unproven (V different to the skylanders approach), Mario party (are you kidding?), Mario Galaxy sequel may not happen for another 2-3 years, if at all... Essentially the only sure fired hits are Smash Bros and Zelda, neither of which have the pulling power of Mario Kart (IMO) and one isn't coming til the end of 2015.

As for 3rd parties having a large effect on Xbox One's sales, Its niave to assume that they won't. All of the multiplat releases so far are cross gen, so they have very little reason to make a huge dent. Even then watchdogs provided a 25% increase on the $499 Xbox One's sales on the week of its release and it was heavily marketed/tied to the PS4. Once next gen exclusive titles start coming out that can only be played on either the Xbox One or PS4 like Assassins Creed Unity (huge), Batman Arkham Knight (huge), Wicther 3 (Tons of Hype), do you honestly think it won't have a strong effect on a $399 Xbox One's sales?  And that doesn't even take into account the 1st part exclusives.

The Wii U had to overcome a year of stigma and being labeled a dead console. People actually thought that Nintendo would fold or drop the Wii U completely. The fact that Nintendo is in the process of rising from the dead is nothing short of miraculous if they can hold on to this momentum until the holidays.

Nintendo said they're planning a console and handheld version of Metroid but gave no time frame or information beyond that, other than saying they liked what Retro did with it. Coincidentally, Retro has been working on a complete mystery title since January.

The amiibo is Nintendo's attempt to persuade third parties to join them in the smart toy market. That alone could be so huge that it makes the Wii U into a worthy successor to the Wii. I won't dwell too much on the major could bes. The amiibo will likely sell like hot cakes this holiday because it's hard not to sell well during the holidays.

Mario Party is an amazing money maker for Nintendo. It takes very little time, effort, and money to make a new Mario Party title compared to say, Mario Galaxy or Zelda, and it's almost a guaranteed million copies sold. Mario Party 10 has arguably the greatest new addition to the series since the series was made, so I don't see it doing terribly.

Bolded: Yes. I don't think that the new current gen only third pary releases will be nearly as big for XB1 as people think. You can sticky this and follow it if you want. I'll eat crow if they do, but I'm expecting them to boost the PS4 by so much that the XB1 sales will not only look pallid, but actually suffer. When the time finally comes, PS3 owners are all going to jump to the PS4, and there's very little reason for most XB360 owners to jump to the XB1 over the PS4. Maybe half of the XB360 owners bought the system for first party titles if we're being generous. The rest were there for third parties, and they'll go to where the third parties are better.

Oh I'm sure the PS4 will be doing 2:1 when it comes to those releases but i still expect a healthy boost for the Xbox. Also  Halo + Gears >>> Any IP sony has. Specifically because they online/community and the power in them. I really think people are making the mistake in thinking that these early adopters are representive of the masses that will swarm to the next gen systems once they've got big hitters exclusive. I don't think the casual COD fan has the bias against microsoft that is portrayed by the informed gamers on here who bring up suff like resolution, DRM etc.