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teigaga on 25 July 2014
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Experimental42 said:
teigaga said:
the Wii U is doing ok now but I don't think you can really compare it to Xbox One.

Wii U has been out for a year and a half and has had most of its biggest names hit the system (Pikmin, Donkey Kong, Mario 3D, Mario 2D, Zelda Remaster and Mario Kart). It needed all of that and a price cut to reach this new 60k/week baseline. I'm sure it will rise even higher once smash bros comes out, but I think the system will approach its peak in the next 12months.

The Xbox on the other hand been out for 8month and hasn't had any of its 1st party big hitters (Halo, gears, Fable), yet is fairly competitive sales wise. Once Halo and 3rd party next gen exclusives (AC Unity, Batman, Witcher 3) come out, the Xbox will be selling alot more. In short its mediocrity is around equal to the Wii U's peak.


I wouldn't classify Pikmin as one of the biggest names on Nintendo. Donkey Kong was a marketing disaster and was released at a very poor time. Super Mario 3D world is a spinoff Mario and not what people say when they mean 3D Mario. When people talk about a 3D mario they mean in the same vein as Super Mario Galaxy. The 2D Mario actually did very well, but it was a launch title and can't have immortal legs.

Mario Kart and its bundle/promotion are pretty much the only reason the Wii U baseline seems to have increased considering DKC did nothing for it.

Wii U still has Mario Galaxy's successor, Mario Party, Metroid, Star Fox, Smash, Zelda, and the amiibo to come. That's far more impressive than what's already out. Not even considering the fact Mario Kart 8 will get a boost from amiibo for the holidays if it's compatible at release.

You have no basis to assume ACU, Batman, or Witcher 3 will have a large effect on the XB1's sales. In fact, multiplat realeases after the launch window have said the opposite.

Although many of the releases weren't optimal, they are still big name exclusives (I agree not so much with Pikmin), which contributed to where the system is, the fact that they didn't make a huge impact speaks more on the Wii U more then it does their marketing or appeal. Mario 3D isn't Galaxy but it obviously helped the system a lot last holiday. The key point is look at what the Wii U has needed to simply sell at (or slightly above), Xbox One levels. The Xbox is competing against it on cross gen titles and hardware power alone.

Of the awaiting titles that you've listed Metroid is fantasy at the moment (also not a huge seller-sells at Pikmin levels), Star fox is looking like 2016 (also not a huge seller), amiibo is completely unproven (V different to the skylanders approach), Mario party (are you kidding?), Mario Galaxy sequel may not happen for another 2-3 years, if at all... Essentially the only sure fired hits are Smash Bros and Zelda, neither of which have the pulling power of Mario Kart (IMO) and one isn't coming til the end of 2015.

As for 3rd parties having a large effect on Xbox One's sales, Its niave to assume that they won't. All of the multiplat releases so far are cross gen, so they have very little reason to make a huge dent. Even then watchdogs provided a 25% increase on the $499 Xbox One's sales on the week of its release and it was heavily marketed/tied to the PS4. Once next gen exclusive titles start coming out that can only be played on either the Xbox One or PS4 like Assassins Creed Unity (huge), Batman Arkham Knight (huge), Wicther 3 (Tons of Hype), do you honestly think it won't have a strong effect on a $399 Xbox One's sales?  And that doesn't even take into account the 1st part exclusives.